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[5:18] <JoeVr> hello
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[8:18] <nextgens> hi
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[10:14] <toad_> hi folks
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[11:45] <toad_> can i put email addresses in /etc/aliases? i think so...
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[11:48] <NullAcht15> toad_: depends on which mta you're using
[11:48] <NullAcht15> with postfix, it's no problem
[11:49] <NullAcht15> (on the right-hand side, that is)
[11:53] <spaetz_> "quick question: cvs co FreenetRewrite;cd FreenetRewrite;ant" leads to freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar
[11:53] <spaetz_> but calling java -jar frenet-cvs-snapshot.jar gives an error
[11:53] <spaetz_> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 0
[11:53] <spaetz_> at freenet.node.Node.main(Node.java:221)
[11:53] <spaetz_> Does anybody know what's wrong?
[11:58] <toad_> how do i verify sites that have SPF, and not block sites which don't?
[11:59] <toad_> to catch all the paypal/ebay/etc phishing?
[12:03] <NullAcht15> what's an spf?
[12:04] <spaetz_> Sender Policy Framework (SPF)
[12:04] <spaetz_> google is your fre
[12:04] <spaetz_> friend :)
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[12:25] <toad_> [16:07] <nextgens> whereas if you set up a SSH+SVN repo., people need to have a valid account on the box and to have access to the repository ...
[12:25] <toad_> [16:07] <nextgens> which could lead to problems ...
[12:25] <toad_> [16:08] <nextgens> if an accident happens (eg: rm -r /repository)
[12:25] <toad_> [16:08] <nextgens> and complexify the setup (setGid bits and umasks)
[12:25] <toad_> [16:09] <nextgens> but, it's true that it needs apache2 to work :/
[12:25] <toad_> yikes
[12:25] <toad_> that is bad
[12:25] <toad_> not only can they wipe the repository, they can change ANYTHING they want, and wipe the audit trail
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[12:29] <NullAcht15> toad_: you can easily give users svn access /wo giving them shell/ssh access
[12:29] <NullAcht15> using the apache module
[12:30] <toad_> spaetz_: you need to specify a port number
[12:30] <toad_> NullAcht15: right
[12:30] <toad_> NullAcht15: does that enforce permissions properly, or is it just letting them do arbitrary changes to the repository's underlying files via WebDAV?
[12:31] <NullAcht15> As far as I know, it only let's them do things "the subversion way"
[12:31] <toad_> and what RCSs support proper security features e.g. branch hashes and so on?
[12:31] <NullAcht15> meaning, for example, they can't erase hitsory
[12:32] <NullAcht15> branch hashes? How are those supposed to work in such a system?
[12:33] <NullAcht15> I mean, the whole point of the thing is that you can do changes to the branches...
[12:34] <toad_> http://www.xatrix.org/advisory.php?s=5479
[12:34] <toad_> that suggests that subversion is reasonably secure
[12:34] <toad_> "repository compromize"
[12:35] <toad_> NullAcht15: there was some discussion on the endless kernel debates on RCSs about security using hashes
[12:35] <toad_> obviously branches can be modified, but a certain point on a branch can have a full hash
[12:36] <toad_> some of the distributed RCSs support this
[12:38] <toad_> hmmm
[12:38] <toad_> sarge has subversion 1.1.4
[12:38] <toad_> there's a protocol change for 1.2
[12:38] <toad_> the latest is 1.2.3
[12:39] <toad_> there is forward compatibility in svn
[12:39] <toad_> but not easily in subclipse
[12:39] <toad_> 1.2.x is ONLY in unstable
[12:40] <toad_> and we don't want emu.freenetproject.org to run debian sid!
[12:41] <toad_> Subclipse 0.9.30
[12:41] <toad_> is provided for people that are not on Windows and do not have Subversion 1.2 available.
[12:41] <toad_> |wtf
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[12:49] <NullAcht15> can't you just take that one package from sid?
[12:50] <NullAcht15> I suppose you wouldn't like having someone else host the repository for you?
[12:50] <toad_> i could just install it manually from sid, yes
[12:50] <NullAcht15> (I have a working subversion install...)
[12:50] <toad_> but then it wouldn't be kept up to date...
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[13:29] <toad_> error validating location
[13:29] <toad_> AGAIN
[13:29] <toad_> GRRRRRR
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[13:48] <NullAcht15> ?
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[14:31] <sleon|tuX> hi all
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[14:48] <toad_> bbiab
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[17:11] <rah> big brother is watching
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[17:53] <Code-Chris> any active?
[17:54] <Code-Chris> for some help
[17:54] <unknown_> Code-Chris: What is it?
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[17:54] <Code-Chris> i am just wondering what ports i need to open on my router for freenet
[17:54] <Code-Chris> i reisntall it n i forgot which ports it is
[17:55] <NullAcht15> freenet chooses random ports for fcp on every install
[17:55] <Code-Chris> so the FCP port then
[17:55] <NullAcht15> erm, no
[17:55] <Code-Chris> well i need to open a port for freenet dont i
[17:55] <NullAcht15> correction: Freenet uses random ports for FNP, not FCP
[17:56] <Code-Chris> ok so the FNP port i need to open
[17:56] <NullAcht15> Yes, you could either scan your computer for open ports or look into freenet.conf/ini
[17:57] <Code-Chris> so which port am i looking for to open
[17:57] <Code-Chris> FNP port
[17:57] <NullAcht15> I think fred writes down the port it uses in the config file
[17:57] <NullAcht15> yes
[17:57] <NullAcht15> FCP is only for inside
[17:57] <Code-Chris> so dont open that one then lol
[17:58] <Code-Chris> ahh ok this bit
[17:58] <Code-Chris> the port to listen for incomming FNP connections on;
[17:58] <NullAcht15> correct - unless you want other people from anywhere on the internet to use your node
[18:00] <Code-Chris> grr thats anoying, im still getting cant retreive keys from almost everything
[18:01] <NullAcht15> How many connections are reported on the Open Connections page?
[18:01] <Code-Chris> 13 lol surpose its that
[18:01] <NullAcht15> ( http://localhost:8888/servlet/nodeinfo/networking/ocm )
[18:02] <Code-Chris> yeah only 13 so guess need to leave it for a bit
[18:02] <NullAcht15> If it's 13 you don't have to worry much - it'll get high enough in maybe a few minutes, maybe a few hours
[18:03] <Code-Chris> yeah ill letit run, ok thanks lads
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[20:47] <Elly> mmmmm
[20:47] <Elly> 112 open connections
[20:48] <code-chris> lol
[20:49] <code-chris> 24 :(
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[21:17] <Elly> my RAM is being eaten :O
[21:19] <code-chris> :O
[21:20] <code-chris> mines ok atm havnt notices any change
[21:29] <code-chris> if i want a computer to access my frenet server on another computer
[21:30] <code-chris> do i just add the IP of the computer into the freenet config thing
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[22:27] <Elly> holy fuck :|
[22:27] <Elly> freenet was using 30% of system RAM
[22:27] <Elly> on a 512MB machine
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