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[9:41] <mophead> Hi all, I'm from China, I can't download freenet from sf.net and freenetproject.org because of censorship, could you guys send me one, thank you very much!!
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[10:01] <mophead> hapi: could you send me one freenet package?
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[10:31] <hobx_> mophead: If you use Freenet, the government will get you.
[10:37] <cbreak> freenet does not hide that you use it, it only hides what you do in it.
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[11:32] <setuid> Is build 5102 the latest?
[11:33] <setuid> er, n/m, just read /topic... where does one get 60266?
[11:33] <cbreak> same location as stable.
[11:34] <cbreak> but you don't realy want to use it unless you like to be on your own I guess :)
[11:35] <setuid> Just wondering when the client will have enough of the data to be useful... I've had it running for 2 weeks on a 6mbit/1mbit connection, I can barely get to 1 page in any of the indices (and the icons aren't even showing up on the main page yet)
[11:37] <greycat> how many connections do you have? how much data in the data store?
[11:38] <setuid> How can I tell? The main page and "General Information" doesn't show much...
[11:38] <greycat> switch to advanced mode
[11:39] <greycat> upper right corner of the web interface page
[11:39] <greycat> (don't ask why that's not the default. Ian Clarke thinks things need to be dumbed down.)
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[11:40] <setuid> Says 2 connections open, "None" for Data waiting to be transferred, 12kKiB for "Total amount of data transferred"
[11:40] <setuid> Doesn't say how big the datastore is
[11:40] <greycat> that's on the "Environment" page.
[11:41] <setuid> 256M (that's low, I can give it a few gigs)
[11:41] <greycat> default setting :/
[11:41] * setuid changes tht
[11:41] <cbreak> you are on stable?
[11:41] <greycat> I think that one MIGHT be one of the ones that fred can pick up on the fly if you just edit the file and let the node read it
[11:42] <setuid> Is that this? storeSize=268435456
[11:42] <greycat> yes
[11:43] <setuid> Ok, now its 25 GiB
[11:43] <setuid> (just tacked on two zeros to the end ;)
[11:43] <cbreak> if you use unstable, consider switching to stable. if you use stable, consider reseeding.
[11:43] <cbreak> if you have an nat, consider forwarding the fnp
[11:44] <setuid> I'm not sure what that means. Unstable vs. Stable meaning my Debian flavor?
[11:44] <greycat> what version of freenet?
[11:44] <setuid> I'm using whatever 'freenet-latest.tar.gz' provides + I ran update.sh
[11:44] <cbreak> stable means build 5102
[11:44] <setuid> Right, 5102 is all there is
[11:44] <greycat> it should say on the web interface
[11:44] <greycat> good.
[11:44] <cbreak> unstable has more or less the same code, but is a seperate network.
[11:45] <setuid> *nod*
[11:45] <setuid> How do I force a reseed?
[11:45] <cbreak> stop the node, download a new seednodes.ref and replace yours. start it again.
[11:46] <cbreak> consider downloading a compressed version.
[11:49] <setuid> Done, lets see how this helps...
[11:49] <cbreak> it will take some time to pick up the new seeds.
[11:50] <greycat> keep an eye on the open connections and make sure you get some...
[11:50] <cbreak> do you use some kind of firewall or nat?
[11:50] <setuid> Connections open (Inbound/Outbound/Limit) 5 (0/5/200)
[11:51] <setuid> cbreak: Both, and this is let through.
[11:51] <greycat> after 30 minutes if you don't have any inbound connections, there's probably a problem
[11:51] <setuid> Though I don't have a specific port punched through to this specific box from the firewall
[11:51] <greycat> that would explain it.
[11:51] <greycat> you really need to do that
[11:51] <setuid> But port 14400 or whatever is open and available to get to here
[11:51] <setuid> hrm..
[11:52] <cbreak> the port is random. it has to be explicitely forwarded to your computer if you use an nat.
[11:52] <setuid> Is that the "Current IPv4 port" value on the environment tab?
[11:53] <greycat> it's "listenPort" in the conf file
[11:53] <setuid> Ok, same thing... let's try that.
[11:58] <setuid> Looks like I've got 8 open connections now, 781KiB transferred
[12:00] <cbreak> inbound/outbound?
[12:03] <setuid> 1/7/200
[12:07] <setuid> Weird, freenet seems to be a blocking process.. When one tab is "thinking", I can't get to the main info page without stopping the open socket that is on the "thnking" tab.
[12:08] <cbreak> browsers only open a limited amount of conns to one server
[12:08] <setuid> But only one connection to localhost?
[12:08] <cbreak> and one page with pictures needs more for parallel loading
[12:08] <cbreak> browser dependant.
[12:08] <cbreak> firefox opens 4 afaik
[12:09] <setuid> Changing now..
[12:09] * setuid uses Mozilla
[12:10] <setuid> Bumped it to 32, still a blocking process, but the same thing doesn't happen with apache on localhost
[12:10] <setuid> Weird, I'll just have to keep that in mind
[12:11] <setuid> How many open connections should I be seeing?
[12:11] <cbreak> over 50.
[12:11] <cbreak> it's a browser problem most likely.
[12:12] <cbreak> you can try a different one at the same time :)
[12:12] <setuid> Well I've got my incomingPort port punched through on tcp and udp to this specific internal machine
[12:12] <setuid> So I guess I'll wait it out
[12:12] <setuid> I've only got 8 connections so far
[12:12] <cbreak> if you have at least one incomming, it works :)
[12:13] <setuid> heh
[12:20] <setuid> What hte heck is a "fuqid"?
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[12:49] <toad_> [02:56] <toad_> anyone here think that 4kB/sec is realistic for a chain of 10 nodes, with NGR?
[12:49] <toad_> [02:56] <toad_> i'm deeply skeptical, given that a typical node will have a 16kB/sec limit
[12:49] <toad_> [02:56] <toad_> and that _the transfer rate is determined by the SLOWEST node on the chain_
[12:49] <toad_> [02:56] <toad_> even with NGR and with 0.7 UDP, it seems a little implausible
[12:50] <toad_> even with NGR and with 0.7 UDP, it seems a little implausible
[12:50] <toad_> [03:23] <fridim> by default what is the bandwidth limit ? -- 12kB/sec output, no input limit
[12:51] <toad_> [14:37] <cbreak> freenet does not hide that you use it, it only hides what you do in it. --- neither does a proxy from the proxy list. the difference is the proxy gets shut down FAST. freenet doesn't.
[12:51] <toad_> setuid: your node has problems. how many connections? you're probably firewalled...
[12:52] <nextgens> toad_: hi
[12:53] <nextgens> toad_: are you able to logon Rome ?
[12:53] * nextgens is experiencing problems :-S
[12:54] * toad_ tries
[12:54] <toad_> yes
[12:54] <toad_> no problem
[12:54] <nextgens> cool
[12:54] <toad_> http://amphibian.dyndns.org/multi-whacky-graph-tsuccess-new.png
[12:55] <toad_> falling a bit far
[12:55] <toad_> but i have a few ideas for tweaks
[12:55] <toad_> and maybe new estimators too
[12:56] <toad_> but right now i'd better get going...
[12:56] * toad_ said he'd go to the clan tech meeting
[12:56] <toad_> probably was a mistake, but will try regardless
[13:01] * toad_ thinks we should have a week's national holiday around a general election
[13:01] <toad_> or at least 2 days
[13:03] <nextgens> lol
[13:03] <toad_> :)
[13:04] * toad_ -> bristolwireless.net tech/network meeting, also sister's. will be back around midnight, maybe 1. may or may not work after that.
[13:05] <toad_> bbl
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[13:28] <mophead> could you download freenet-5102.jar and send it to me? I can't download it in China because of censorship.
[13:28] <setuid> Use the torrent
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[14:28] <hobx_> setuid: What if he can't download bt?
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[14:49] <fridim_> yop
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[16:36] <fridim> grouph
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[20:06] <setuid> Ok, so where is this 60266 version? I'd like to give it a go (yes, I realize its a totally separate network)
[20:07] * setuid checks out cvs
[20:09] <cbreak> try /snapshots/unstable-latest.jar instead of /snapshots/latest.jar
[20:10] <cbreak> http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-unstable-latest.jar
[20:12] <setuid> got it (both are in cvs)
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[20:17] <Fisu_> Gentoo Java init script is broken; any change anyone here is maintaining it?
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[20:18] <Fisu> that is, freenet init script
[20:40] <setuid> hrm, I don't see any inbound connections with the 60266 version.
[20:40] <setuid> Port is correct, I'm seeing outbound, but no inbound.
[20:40] <cbreak> maybe you're the only user :)
[20:40] <setuid> heheh
[20:40] <setuid> true
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[21:37] <fridim> is normal that my download is still at 10 % after 48 hours ? :)
[21:37] <fridim> i'am downloading with frost
[21:37] <setuid> re-seed
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[21:44] <cbreak> you reached 10%? impressive :)
[21:45] <cbreak> some files aren't completely in the network, they can't be downloaded without reinserting them.
[21:45] <cbreak> others just take long.
[21:45] <fridim> ok
[21:45] <fridim> but
[21:46] <fridim> is it really faster with fuqid
[21:47] <cbreak> never tried that...
[21:47] <cbreak> but most likely it wont.
[21:47] <cbreak> both use freenet as a backend, the only difference may be the decoding speed and the number of threads both use.
[21:48] <cbreak> (I found frost using much too many, which could drown freenet in work...)
[21:49] <Elly> yay
[21:49] <Elly> it's my birthday really really soon =D
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