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[11:31] <toad_> hi folks
[11:31] <toad_> anyone out here?
[11:34] <toad_> anyone have jabber? i need to test it..
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[11:40] <toad_> hi
[11:40] <gregh> hey
[11:40] <gregh> just trying to get a freenet node running
[11:41] <gregh> I started it about an hour ago and it's talked to all of two peers since then (according to the open connections screen)
[11:41] <toad_> having any luck?
[11:41] <toad_> hmmm
[11:41] <gregh> I've successfully run a freenet node before, but that was months ago :)
[11:41] <toad_> what OS?
[11:41] <gregh> freebsd
[11:41] <toad_> and what did you download exactly?
[11:41] <gregh> jdk14
[11:42] <gregh> freenet-latest.tgz
[11:42] <toad_> hrrm
[11:43] <toad_> <pre><img src="http://freenetproject.org/icons/compressed.gif" alt="[ ]"> <a href="http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-latest.tgz">freenet-latest.tgz</a> 27-Apr-2005 07:09 3.9M GZIP compressed tar ar></pre>
[11:43] <toad_> hmmmm
[11:43] <toad_> should be okay...
[11:43] <gregh> MD5 (freenet-latest.tgz) = e2edd007f777d48a2060b369f5a7ce35
[11:44] <toad_> try just wiping it and trying again
[11:44] <toad_> maybe you were unlucky
[11:44] <gregh> heh I did that about three times already
[11:44] <toad_> hmmm
[11:45] <gregh> I could try that again, sec
[11:45] <toad_> dcc me your freenet.ini
[11:45] <toad_> anything major in your logs?
[11:45] <gregh> uh
[11:45] <toad_> oh and this is 1.4.1 or later, not 1.4.0?
[11:45] <gregh> well I'll let you know when I restart it, I just nuked the dir. :p
[11:45] <gregh> bash-2.05b$ java -version
[11:45] <gregh> java version "1.4.2-p7"
[11:46] <toad_> okay..
[11:46] <toad_> chmod a+x *.sh
[11:46] <toad_> ./start-freenet.sh
[11:47] <toad_> anyone have any idea why my gnome-jabber manages to register a new account on jabber.org but won't actually connect to it?
[11:47] <gregh> ok it's back up
[11:47] <toad_> dcc me your freenet.ini
[11:47] <gregh> what should I look for first to check for a healthy install?
[11:47] <toad_> maybe there's some wierdness there
[11:47] <gregh> ini? you mean conf?
[11:47] <toad_> also what's the firewall status? you can receive connections on the listenPort?
[11:47] <toad_> yes freenet.conf
[11:47] <toad_> sorry
[11:48] <gregh> hrm I can't dcc from here
[11:48] <toad_> well put it somewhere, or email me it...
[11:48] <gregh> yeah hang on
[11:49] <toad_> anyone here got jabber?
[11:49] <gregh> I use jabber, but not at jabber.org
[11:49] <toad_> it's the only way i'll be able to talk to the guy who runs the cluster we're borrowing for the next few days
[11:49] <toad_> so i need to test it
[11:49] <gregh> my jid is ghewgill@slacker.com
[11:49] <toad_> i've connected, but he's probably somewhere on the chunnel right now
[11:49] <toad_> thx
[11:49] <gregh> http://apps.hewgill.com/~greg/freenet.conf
[11:50] <toad_> i'm amphibian@jabber.org, i think...
[11:50] <gregh> no firewall on this machine
[11:50] <toad_> direct connection? no NAT?
[11:50] <gregh> right
[11:50] <toad_> your conf looks okay to me...
[11:51] <toad_> ahhh
[11:51] <gregh> open connections shows two peers
[11:51] <toad_> i can't add him if he's offline...
[11:51] <gregh> aha
[11:52] <toad_> it will initially... but later on it will break...
[11:52] <toad_> err
[11:52] <toad_> later on it should get more
[11:52] <toad_> why does it always get exactly 2 conns?
[11:52] <gregh> I dunno
[11:52] <FallingBuzzard> gregh: did you get a new seednodes.ref file
[11:52] <gregh> no, I just used the default
[11:53] <gregh> where should I get a current one?
[11:53] <FallingBuzzard> freenetproject.org/snapshots
[11:53] <toad_> ouch
[11:53] <toad_> seednodes.ref in the .tgz is only 700k
[11:54] <toad_> and only contains 18 references
[11:54] <toad_> what when wrong?
[11:54] <toad_> hrrrm
[11:54] <toad_> the one in /snapshots/ is 3MB
[11:54] <gregh> yup trying the big one now
[11:54] <toad_> and contains 80 references
[11:54] <toad_> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[11:55] <toad_> (which is still pathetic)
[11:55] <gregh> I'll let this one run for a while
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[12:08] <toad_> gregh: thanks for letting us know, there is definitely a problem with not enough seednodes...
[12:09] <gregh> cool
[12:09] <gregh> 09:53 <@toad_> why does it always get exactly 2 conns?
[12:09] <gregh> oddly, it still has just two. :)
[12:09] <gregh> Connections open (Inbound/Outbound/Limit)2 (2/0/200)
[12:09] <toad_> gregh: because it was using the small seednodes file with only 18 total refs?
[12:09] <toad_> some of which are offline...
[12:09] <toad_> some of which are overloaded...
[12:09] <gregh> well I'm using the 3MB one now
[12:18] <toad_> okay
[12:18] <toad_> if that doesn't work we'll have a better, much bigger one, soon
[12:20] <toad_> well soonish :)
[12:24] * toad_ restarted both stable and unstable... unstable has 2 connections (had to go from scratch), stable has 20 so far
[12:28] <toad_> 22 on stable
[12:28] <toad_> this node has been down for ages
[12:28] <toad_> okay, where was I?
[12:28] <toad_> ah yes, I need to mod the lists...
[12:30] <toad_> done. good.
[12:30] <toad_> installed jabber, it works... nextgens is probably on a plane somewhere, so won't be able to contact him today
[12:30] * FallingBuzzard goes back to his real job
[12:30] <toad_> simulations then...
[12:31] <toad_> FallingBuzzard: thanks
[12:31] <FallingBuzzard> np
[12:31] * toad_ runs a re-harvest
[12:31] <toad_> anyone else want to be a seednodes source?
[12:32] <toad_> there are now 3 nodes on the unstable network... :)
[12:32] <toad_> hopefully more than that
[12:34] <toad_> back to the simulations...
[12:35] <toad_> okay, i'm through to n32
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[13:53] <toad_> connectivity is pretty dubious... :<
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[14:17] <gregh> hm. still only two peers.
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[16:13] <toad_> lots of empty nodes.. need to start some more simulations...
[16:14] <gregh> looks like I have 8 peers now
[16:14] <toad_> yay
[16:14] <toad_> there is a new seednodes.ref...
[16:15] <toad_> it's 8M
[16:15] <gregh> should I grab that or just run with what I've got now?
[16:15] <toad_> if it works okay use what you've got
[16:15] <gregh> well it's not working okay just yet :)
[16:15] <toad_> seednodes.ref has 217 nodes...
[16:15] <gregh> but I'll wait
[16:16] <toad_> yay i have 15 unstable conns
[16:16] <toad_> and 60 stable ones
[16:17] <toad_> okay.. which nodes don't have jobs to run?
[16:18] <toad_> n31...
[16:19] <toad_> pure-path-length, 200x20x20, BDRA50
[16:20] <toad_> build jar, upload to n32, run on n31
[16:22] <Elly> Pd is scary =(
[16:22] <toad_> Pd?
[16:22] <Elly> Palladium
[16:22] <toad_> many things are scary
[16:23] <toad_> all you can do about that particular thing is resist software patents and make sure linux thoroughly thrashes longhorn
[16:25] <Elly> I like owning my own PC
[16:25] <Elly> well, toad_, longhorn looks like it's going to be a train wreck
[16:25] <Elly> MS have released some screenshots
[16:25] <Elly> it looks like XP with a new theme
[16:28] <gregh> Microsoft Windows XP Skinz Edition
[16:28] <Elly> exactly
[16:28] <Elly> the OS doesn't actually have anything _new_ to offer
[16:29] <Elly> Linux is still evolving (2.6.12 anyone?) while the Microsoft gnomes labor away in their cathedral
[16:30] <Elly> Longhorn is looking like '07
[16:31] <toad_> longhorn will be quite nice as such things go, i'm sure
[16:32] <toad_> nice 3d gui probably
[16:32] <toad_> MAYBE winfs
[16:32] <Elly> no Avalon though
[16:32] <Elly> no Indigo
[16:32] <toad_> and of course it'll be the only way to get directX 11 :)
[16:32] <toad_> what's avalon, indigo?
[16:32] <Elly> on what basis are they planning to sell the thing?
[16:32] <Elly> the New Windows API
[16:32] <toad_> really? hmmm
[16:32] <toad_> well, they sell it to Consumers on the 3d gui :)
[16:32] <toad_> and they sell it to Managers on the alleged security improvement
[16:33] <toad_> oh and DX11
[16:33] <toad_> every gamer on the planet will get longhorn for DX11 :<
[16:33] <Elly> Joel wrote once that Avalon/Indigo is one of the biggest mistakes MS has ever made
[16:33] <toad_> hopefully the major hardware suppliers will do something about this
[16:34] <toad_> oh, the managed code thingy?
[16:34] <Elly> no, worse
[16:34] <Elly> what keeps people locked into windows now is the tremendous variety of apps for it
[16:34] <Elly> that do cool things and so on
[16:34] <Elly> games, etc
[16:34] <toad_> for now
[16:34] <Elly> if you rewrite the API (as they want to do), then all those have to be rewritten
[16:34] <toad_> people keep telling me they're all going to be ported... some of them are
[16:35] <Elly> which means that when Avalon comes out, there will be no apps for it until there is a market for them, and there will be no market because there are no apps
[16:35] <toad_> well, TCPA could be a big loss - if it works, and people figure that out, they lose most of the consumer market
[16:35] <toad_> OTOH it's key to their plan to maintain their monopoly
[16:35] <toad_> no, M$ has dealt with that before - look at win95
[16:35] <Elly> yeah but
[16:35] <toad_> all the apps were rewritten and everyone upgraded
[16:35] <Elly> back when Win95 came out
[16:35] <Elly> people were still buying PCs en masse
[16:36] <Elly> all they had to do was wait for a big company to buy an assload of new PCs and everyone else would have to upgrade too
[16:36] <toad_> yeah..
[16:36] <Elly> that's how 95/98 came out within less time than Longhorn has spent in development
[16:36] <Elly> but now there is no such driving force
[16:37] <toad_> is there any clarity on whether Longhorn will have NGTCB?
[16:37] <Elly> '95 was a hit because it was forced upon users by massive upgrades, and also because its GUI was simply revolutionary
[16:37] <Elly> XP did the same sort of massive GUI change
[16:37] <Elly> that's Longhorn's best shot at being big
[16:37] <Elly> NGTCB?
[16:37] <toad_> what is? a big improvement to the GUI?
[16:37] <toad_> XP is pretty, it's not a huge improvement
[16:38] <toad_> NGTCB = TCPA = Palladium = Trusted Computing
[16:38] <toad_> (or is it NGSCB? Next Gen Secure/Trusted Computing Base)
[16:38] <Elly> yeah, the GUI is longhorn's best shot
[16:39] <Elly> enterprise-class computing is catching on now to the fact that Microsoft just writes shit
[16:39] <Elly> and there is no reason to think that their newest is not more of the same
[16:39] <toad_> it'll be interesting to see whether there is widespread consumer adoption
[16:40] <toad_> on the one hand: games will require dx11 (maybe), nice GUI
[16:40] <toad_> on the other hand: you can't pirate games any more!!
[16:40] <toad_> at least not as easily
[16:40] <Elly> but as I said, there's a) no point to writing a game that requires DX11 if nobody has DX11 and b) there's no point in getting DX11 if there are no games for it
[16:40] <toad_> also massive hardware upgrade needed
[16:40] <toad_> yeah, previous versions have been free
[16:41] <toad_> and the graphics card companies aren't stupid
[16:41] <toad_> they'll make their own API if they have to
[16:41] <Elly> they already have
[16:41] <toad_> consumers will use it if they can pirate it, they don't need to buy a new computer to run it, and it doesn't prevent them from pirating games, movies, music, and everything else
[16:41] <Elly> it's called OpenGL
[16:42] <toad_> :)
[16:42] <toad_> nobody uses it, unfortunately
[16:42] <Elly> err?
[16:42] <Elly> I have quite a few games here that run on Linux and Windows
[16:42] <toad_> also for the latest features you need to use some vendor specific extensions
[16:42] <Elly> so they must not be using DX
[16:42] <toad_> I use emulation mostly
[16:42] <Elly> for example
[16:42] <Elly> Unreal Tournament 2004
[16:42] <Elly> which is visually a damn slick game
[16:42] <toad_> i do have e.g. doom 3, but i have to emulate warcraft 3
[16:42] <Elly> yeah
[16:43] <Elly> UT2004 probably uses OpenGL or their own engine/API or something
[16:43] <toad_> i hear rumours from a not-very-reliable source that starcraft 2 and unreal 3 will both be ported (and will scale to many way SMP)
[16:43] <toad_> that same source told me that there was some sort of effort to port old games e.g. starcraft to linux and non-x86 unixes.. i've yet to see any evidence
[16:44] <toad_> on the other hand, cedega/winex runs a lot of stuff
[16:44] <toad_> now, where was I? working...
[16:45] <toad_> okay, what can i run on n25?
[16:46] <Elly> n25?
[16:46] <Elly> well, I've seen ports of old games
[16:46] <Elly> freecnc
[16:46] <Elly> for example
[16:46] <Elly> freecraft too
[16:46] <Elly> (now dead)
[16:46] <toad_> sure
[16:46] <toad_> those aren't ports, they're rewrites
[16:46] <toad_> and freecraft is by no means dead
[16:46] <toad_> last i heard
[16:47] <toad_> he meant something industry sponsored to try to get people to buy more unix boxes
[16:47] <Elly> err?
[16:47] <Elly> they got a cease-and-desist from blizzard
[16:47] <toad_> which is deeply implausible, since they're expensive, even for hackers
[16:47] <Elly> which pretty much killed it
[16:47] <toad_> Elly: no, that was bnetd
[16:47] <Elly> doom naturally has been ported
[16:48] <toad_> we have the source of doom
[16:48] <toad_> that helps! :)
[16:48] <Elly> I know
[16:48] <Elly> http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/06/21/1323249&mode=thread&tid=127&tid=186&tid=210
[16:48] <toad_> i wonder if this machine is on a wireless link or something.. it gets wierd outages from time to time
[16:49] <toad_> hmmm
[16:49] <toad_> my understanding is it was just a trademark problem and they renamed it
[16:50] <Elly> apparently not
[16:50] <Elly> sweet
[16:50] <Elly> Apache: 69.32% market share
[16:50] <Elly> IIS: 20.45% market share
[16:51] <Elly> up 0.13% and down 0.1% respectively
[16:51] <cbreak> there surely are others...
[16:51] <Elly> 'others'?
[16:51] <toad_> :)
[16:51] <cbreak> ok, I don't know any...
[16:51] <toad_> e.g. Zeus, Boa, ...
[16:51] <toad_> things which actually perform well...
[16:52] <cbreak> I once read Netscape has a Web Server ;)
[16:52] <Elly> they do
[16:52] <Elly> but those all put together are <10%
[16:52] <Elly> hah
[16:52] <Elly> NCSA HTTPd: 0 sites
[16:53] <toad_> heh
[16:53] <toad_> okay, BDRA100, BDRA50, BDRA25, for pure-path-length
[16:53] <toad_> nextgens said i could use n16-n22 if i was considerate
[16:54] <toad_> i have no idea what he meant by that.. well he meant my jobs might get preempted by Real Researchers...
[16:54] <toad_> but I have no idea how to deal with that
[16:54] <toad_> apart from putting a README in explaining it
[16:54] <toad_> which I have done
[16:54] <toad_> with my email address
[16:55] <Elly> nice your sim?
[16:55] <toad_> uh, it has a substantial memory footprint...
[16:57] <Elly> ah
[16:57] <toad_> also the memory limit of 512M is a PITA
[16:57] <toad_> these nodes only have 512M of actual RAM
[16:57] <Elly> ...that's about as much as an average home PC
[16:57] <toad_> if you have to set the JVM to -Xmx640, you get half a gig of ram used + half a gig of swap, and your process doesn't even show up on top any more
[16:58] <toad_> sure but i wouldn't use an average home PC for simulations (in an ideal world; IRL, if you have one... :) )
[17:02] <toad_> okay, n25
[17:02] <toad_> shall i run some form of pfailure*tsuccess, something else, or continue to try to characterise BDRA+200x20x20 by running another pure-path-length one?
[17:02] <toad_> at say BDRA15...
[17:03] * toad_ does it at BDRA12
[17:03] <toad_> then one at 5
[17:04] <toad_> then, if i can use 16-22, some of the other algorithms...
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[17:07] <Elly> toad_
[17:07] <Elly> do you do anything except run simulations?
[17:07] <toad_> Elly?
[17:07] <Elly> I mean, why not just implement it and see what happens when you actually _use_ it?
[17:07] <toad_> yes, I code, I answer email, I mod the lists, I do all kinds of things
[17:08] <toad_> Elly: because we've been doing that for the last 7 years
[17:08] <toad_> and freenet still sucks
[17:10] <toad_> adequate answer?
[17:10] * Elly shrugs
[17:10] <Elly> it feels like nothing is actually changing
[17:10] <Elly> freenet isn't getting better day-by-day
[17:10] <Elly> it still consumes bandwidth for no readily apparent reason
[17:10] <toad_> if we can make this work, then something _big_ will change
[17:11] <toad_> it consumes your bandwidth so Content of Evil/Ian Clarke can download his porn movies!
[17:13] <toad_> at some point we'll have to just implement 0.7 and trusted links
[17:14] <toad_> but it's good to test out different algos in theory first, since they're bloody hard to test out IRL
[17:16] <toad_> although the testnet ought to make that easier
[17:17] <Elly> 'trusted links'?
[17:17] <toad_> fixed links
[17:17] <toad_> the stuff we're working on currently
[17:19] <toad_> http://dodo.freenetproject.org/pipermail/tech/2005-April/001917.html
[17:19] <toad_> and all the stuff after it :)
[17:20] <toad_> some people really don't like it
[17:20] <toad_> some people love it
[17:20] <Elly> hey, toad_, is RSA okay for digital signing?
[17:20] <toad_> but "trusted" is a red herring, in "free" countries you only need to marginally trust your connections
[17:20] <toad_> Elly: sure
[17:20] <Elly> for this signed IRC thing I want to do digital sigs and public keying with 2048-bit RSA
[17:21] <toad_> not sure whether DSA is better or whether it's just that the patent expired first on DSA
[17:21] <Elly> and link crypto with AES
[17:21] <Elly> well, I know RSA pretty well and DSA not at all
[17:21] <Elly> heh
[17:21] <toad_> well, we use DSA variants in freenet :)
[17:22] <Elly> variants?
[17:23] <toad_> DLES, DHAES and so on iirc
[17:24] * Elly hmms
[17:24] <Elly> yeah
[17:25] <Elly> AES for client-to-client, RSA for client authentication, AES for channel keying
[17:25] <toad_> i think those are sort of derived algorithms for e.g. challenge/handshake
[17:25] <Elly> no anonymity to the server
[17:25] <toad_> now
[17:25] <toad_> if I can go down to n16...
[17:25] <toad_> then what can i run on them?
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[17:31] * Elly pokes toad with twofish
[17:32] <toad_> :)
[17:33] <toad_> i hope nextgens doesn't get himself fired over this little adventure...
[17:39] <toad_> okay, n19 will have pathcounting_3est with BDRA25 with 200x20x20
[17:40] <toad_> and n18 can have plain old 3est with BDRA25 and 200x20x20
[17:40] <toad_> then n17 can have tsuccess*pfailure with BDRA25 and 200x20x20
[17:40] <toad_> and n16 can have the same with probRA
[17:41] <Elly> that means nothing to me
[17:41] * toad_ just talking to the void..
[17:41] <toad_> and the logger
[17:41] * toad_ thinks having a chanlog reminds people not to discuss illegal downloads :)
[17:43] <Elly> ?
[17:43] <Elly> what logger? heh
[17:43] <toad_> see /topic
[17:44] <toad_> we _could_ say THIS CHANNEL IS LOGGED. DO NOT TELL US ABOUT ANY ILLEGAL FILES YOU MAY TRY TO DOWNLOAD VIA FREENET OR ANY OTHER MEDIUM. FUCK OFF ALL YOU WAREZ DOODZ!
[17:44] <toad_> but we don't
[17:45] <toad_> we just say "http://freenetproject.org | Stable: Upgrade to 5102 | Unstable: 60266 | Channel logs: http://newton.matcmp.ncc.edu/~lockej/freenet/chanlog/ | #freenet-politics and #freenet-chat are available for offtopic discussions | http://wiki.ffii.org/Cons050307En" instead
[17:46] <greycat> "So remember, kids, don't download CHK@.... because it's Naughty. And They might be watching. So don't download CHK@.... OK? Remember. ...."
[17:48] <Elly> mmm, warez doodz
[17:48] <Elly> but why is one of the groups which is arguably most in opposition of having your online activities logged logging the channel?
[17:49] <greycat> it's a subtle way of saying, "Hey, everything you say here is logged, but there's this other network out there where you can speak freely..."
[17:52] <Elly> I want a .mil domain
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[18:03] <toad_> :)
[18:03] <toad_> lol
[18:04] <toad_> well, a lot of development work gets done here
[18:04] <toad_> and it's useful to have the logs
[18:04] <toad_> this channel is not for sharing keys
[18:04] <toad_> freesites and frost are for doing that
[18:04] <toad_> mostly
[18:05] <toad_> hmmm, can anyone get FIND or TFHI?
[18:05] <toad_> or YoYo?
[18:05] <toad_> i've got TFE and CofE..
[18:12] <Elly> heh
[18:12] <Elly> re airport security
[18:12] <Elly> The aim of terrorists is to terrorize the populace, to disrupt our daily lives, make us live in fear and curtail our freedoms.
[18:12] <Elly> It appears that they have succeeded quite admirably.
[18:12] <toad_> LOL, where was that?
[18:14] <toad_> i know why less memory causes more swapping...
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[18:14] <toad_> errr
[18:14] <toad_> i mean as the jvm arg
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[18:14] <toad_> if you do -Xmx512M, it GCs constantly
[18:14] <toad_> the result is that it swaps constantly, because every time it GCs it has to swap everything in
[18:14] <toad_> if you do -Xmx640M, it doesn't GC constantly
[18:15] <toad_> but later on it will swap more.. :<
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[18:15] <Elly> toad_, http://pi.gn.apc.org/activities/stupidsecurity/
[18:16] <toad_> this of course can be helped a bit by hurd/l4's user-space swapping control...
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[18:19] <toad_> (combined with perhaps more sensible JVM memory management...)
[18:36] <Elly> toad_, crypto question
[18:36] <Elly> does RSA have a length limit?
[18:36] <Elly> like, you can only encrypt data up to the modulus length?
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[20:12] <cbreak> isn't rsa an asymetric cypher? you'd normaly only encrypt a secret key with it.
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[21:23] <toad_> Elly: you encrypt the secret key with it
[21:30] <Elly> yeah I know
[21:30] <Elly> but is there a length limit?
[21:32] <toad_> there is a limit to what is practical i imagine
[21:34] <toad_> http://amphibian.dyndns.org/more-whacky-sims.png
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[21:34] <toad_> looks like my two freenet nodes are moving some serious data...
[21:35] <toad_> transmit is averaging above my theoretical limit
[21:35] <toad_> and receive is a bit below transmit
[21:35] <toad_> well over 20K/sec constant though
[21:36] * toad_ thinks this is cool... but then, i am a seednodes source..
[21:36] <toad_> even my unstable node has 26 connections now, which is relatively respectable considering unstable is tiny
[21:38] <toad_> bbl zzz
[21:41] <toad_> it is good to have a node.. not to have to switch it off to run simulations
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