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[15:17] <twistx> anyone know what i can do to fix this "route not found" error i get?
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[15:31] <cbreak> just let your node run some hours/days should integrate it better in the network.
[15:31] <cbreak> but this only works if your node already has connections.
[15:33] <twistx> cool
[15:34] <twistx> the network seems slower these days. i never used to have this problem
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[15:35] <cbreak> it seems as ever here. did you change your setup?
[15:35] <twistx> i've reinstalled a few times
[15:36] <cbreak> so you are using new seednodes? maybe they are overloaded (like the official seednodes seem to be) or they are old.
[15:38] <twistx> the ones i have are most likely the ones the freenet updater downloaded
[15:42] <twistx> is there a different seednodes.ref linked up somewhere?
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[15:45] <cbreak> I don't know any others, but allways make a backup of mine.
[15:45] <twistx> cool i'll do that before i upgrade next time
[15:46] <twistx> i'll just let this run for a while
[15:47] <cbreak> they should be on http://localhost:8888/servlet/nodestatus/noderefs.txt?minConnections=1
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[20:33] <Elly> b14ck
[20:33] <Elly> hi
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[21:30] <Skyddsman> Allo everybody
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[22:04] <Elly> hehe
[22:05] <Elly> I just read something that made me feel better
[22:05] <Skyddsman> Elly: Share it?
[22:05] <Elly> "Fancy algorithms work well when n is large. n is nearly always small, where fancy algorithms are slow. They are also devilishly complex to implement and debug. When in doubt, use brute force
[22:07] <Skyddsman> Elly: Interesting, but bogus, y'know.
[22:07] <Elly> what d'you mean, bogus?
[22:08] <Skyddsman> Elly: I don't buy one of the assertions: "n is nearly always small"
[22:10] <Elly> Well
[22:10] <Elly> this is in reference to unix programming
[22:11] <Skyddsman> Elly: Well, it's a beautiful statement if you "profile before you optimize".
[22:13] <Skyddsman> Elly: But... n almost always approaches infinity after a program has been in production for 18 months.
[22:13] <Skyddsman> Elly: I just snagged a 40% speed gain -- as low hanging fruit by knowing an approximate value of n.
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[22:19] <Elly> ftp://rukh.ca/Elly/rules.txt
[22:19] <Elly> err
[22:19] <Elly> http:// even
[22:23] <Skyddsman> Elly: That's beatiful. Attribution?
[22:24] <Elly> http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taoup/html/ch01s06.html
[22:24] <Elly> I should add that
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[22:25] <Elly> done
[22:26] <Skyddsman> Woot.
[22:28] <Skyddsman> ah
[22:28] <Skyddsman> Rule 2. Measure. Don't tune for speed until you've measured, and even then don't unless one part of the code overwhelms the rest.
[22:28] <Skyddsman> Rule 3. Fancy algorithms are slow when n is small, and n is usually small. Fancy algorithms have big constants. Until you know that n is frequently going to be big, don't get fancy. (Even if n does get big, use Rule 2 first.)
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