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[0:26] <sadf13234dsf> I'm trying to install freenet and everything from the installation program downloads fast except for freenet-ext.jar
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[0:27] <hugh> everything else went at like 60kB/s and freenet-ext.jar is going at .2kB/s
[0:34] <TheSeeker> somethign's wrong with their server, just gotta wait it out.
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[1:15] <setuid> Anyone awake?
[1:15] <setuid> I've had freenet running for 2 days. How long does it take before data becomes available? (like not having these broken images on the main page)
[1:17] [setuid PING]
[1:18] <setuid> hrm
[1:21] <TheSeeker> do you have incoming connections?
[1:21] <setuid> No idea, how can I tell?
[1:22] <setuid> I'm running build 5015, because thats the only one I could find to download anywhere
[1:22] <TheSeeker> switch to "advanced mode" and open the "open conenctions manager"
[1:22] <TheSeeker> update from snapshots. it WILL download, it will just take a long long time.
[1:22] <setuid> Someone should make a freenet mirror for exactly these kinds of things
[1:23] <setuid> No connections
[1:23] <setuid> But port 8400 is open, and forwarded through to the right host
[1:23] <setuid> I can telnet to it from another external host
[1:24] <setuid> Got a copy of freenet-latest.tgz around?
[1:24] <TheSeeker> I can send you the 5100 .jar but you'd have to trust that I'm a moron that doesn't know a thing about java...
[1:24] <setuid> heh
[1:24] <setuid> dcc is fine
[1:25] <setuid> I'll lock it in a jail
[1:28] <setuid> It takes forever for the webserver on localhost to come up
[1:28] <setuid> :8888, that is
[1:28] <setuid> a good 5 minutes after I launch it
[1:29] <setuid> How can I debug why I'm not seeing any peers after 2 days of running?
[1:30] <TheSeeker> probably because you're running a version that others refuse to conenct to.
[1:31] <setuid> Ok, given that, how can I tell if its "working" properly?
[1:31] <setuid> if the whole network is as slow as trying to download freenet-latest, its no wonder I never see connections
[1:32] <TheSeeker> freenet-latest was trying to download from a non freenet server with issues...
[1:32] <TheSeeker> go back tot he OCM, do you have connections now?
[1:33] <setuid> Connections open (Inbound/Outbound/Limit) 0 (0/0/200)
[1:33] <setuid> Transfers active (Transmitting/Receiving) 0 (0/0)
[1:33] <setuid> Data waiting to be transferred None
[1:33] <setuid> Total amount of data transferred 1,811 Bytes
[1:33] <TheSeeker> might need to kill yoru routing table files (if you ahve any) so it'll retry from the seednodes.ref
[1:34] <setuid> Which ones are those?
[1:34] <TheSeeker> rtnodes* ngrt*, lsnodes* and ratedata* I think
[1:35] <setuid> Dec 8, 2004 1:34:31 AM (freenet.node.rt.StandardNodeEstimator, YThread-12, DEBUG): Writing data for freenet.node.rt.StandardNodeEstimator@d22707:tcp/217.158.132.138:9634, sessions=1, presentations=1, ID=DSA(b54d efb2 cf16 fdf5 59a9 f926 32bc bb73 697b 2778), version=Fred,0.5,1.46,5009
[1:35] <setuid> hrm
[1:36] <TheSeeker> you'd want to delete those while freenet isn't running...
[1:36] <setuid> Of course
[1:40] <setuid> Ok, I see one node now
[1:40] <setuid> home.zk3d.com.:21791 12:191 - 32 KiB 0 s 35 s
[1:40] <TheSeeker> should start seeing more in time
[1:41] <TheSeeker> hopefully get some incoming connections as well (if not you have a firewall/NAT issue)
[1:41] <setuid> Isn't that an incoming one?
[1:44] <setuid> I guess when these images on the main page go from broken to non-broken, I can click and browse freenet
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[1:47] <kevloral> g'morning all
[1:47] <TheSeeker> inbound/outbound is 1/0/200 ?
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[2:20] <spaetz> Morning all
[2:21] <spaetz> Ian Clarke is quoted in the latest "Economist" about P2P technology
[2:21] <spaetz> Ahh, and Freenet was mentioned in order to describe Ian's authority :-)
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[2:40] <hobx__> find online!
[2:44] <spaetz> hobx, it's "premium content" online: ???P2P is a perfectly natural evolution of the internet???in fact, a return to the original style and usage that the creators of the internet really had in mind,??? explains Ian Clarke, the founder of FreeNet, a P2P network that provides anonymity in order to bypass censorship.
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[2:58] <hobx__> I'm premium content online!
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[3:07] <kevloral> g'morning all
[3:34] <kevloral> mmm... that upnplib doesn't detect my router...
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[3:48] <hobx_> I bet they spruced up that quote.
[3:48] <hobx_> far too eloquent to be Ian.
[3:52] <spaetz> hehe
[3:53] <hobx_> really it was like "ugghh.. pee-too-pee good. Give me another beer!"
[3:53] <hobx_> :-)
[3:53] <spaetz> pee2pee hehee
[3:53] <spaetz> I like that
[3:53] <spaetz> Sounds like a men's room meeting :)
[3:53] <hobx_> hmm
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[4:25] <kevloral> re
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[9:28] <hobx_> afternoon Janie
[9:44] <i2p_iip> <Michelle> The Destroyer of Worlds speaks.
[9:44] <i2p_iip> <Michelle> The Destroyer of Worlds speaks.
[9:45] <i2p_iip> <Michelle> He demands an air with toad.
[9:55] <nextgens> gott, why Michelle now?
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[10:33] <KenMan> wheee! I wonder... if specialization occurs with NGR, or CPA, does the universal covered keyspace begin to look like swiss cheese ?
[10:34] <KenMan> Meaning, does the network do a better/worse job depending on the specific key value ??
[10:37] <KenMan> lots of nodes have lots of spec points... but if you 'add' them together, is the coverage/magnetism truly uniform ?
[10:47] <hobx_> mmm... swiss cheese
[10:49] <spaetz> :) /me goes to the fridge
[10:50] <hobx_> just hungry. Shouldn't have had fish for lunch.
[10:51] <hobx_> http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive/phd120804s.gif
[10:53] <KenMan> hobx_ : don't question your chosen path. That only opens the door to further self-doubt ;)
[10:53] <KenMan> Say, where are you (originally) from ?
[10:55] <KenMan> and are you actively working on FreeNet-related research ? or is it something you are prohibited from talking about ?
[10:55] <hobx_> I'm prohibited from talking at all
[10:55] <hobx_> I joined a monestary and took a vow of silence.
[10:55] <hobx_> Or at least a vow of chastity. I think... I must have...
[10:58] <hobx_> What do you mean "originally from".
[10:58] <hobx_> And I am working on Freenet-releated research now, in a sense. But I do math, I don't code.
[10:59] <greycat> does downloading porn count as doing freenet-related research?
[11:09] <KenMan> only if you are performing insertions ;)
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[11:10] <KenMan> these TV media wizards astound me. First it was... "she works in a morgue, and when she touches dead people she can see their past. Now it is up to her to accuse their killers"
[11:10] <KenMan> I mean, really really gripping stuff. And so believable.
[11:11] <KenMan> Well, now they've got an advanced version . "She doesn't work in a morgue. She doesn't touch the dead people. Keep the rest intact."
[11:11] <greycat> if I could read people's past by touching their corpses, the LAST place I'd want to work would be a morgue.
[11:12] <KenMan> I am certain, no matter what they are paying these writers, that it is not nearly enough. I mean, this is pure genius !!
[11:13] <hobx_> I think if you worked some necrophilia in there, you could have a hit
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[11:14] <KenMan> I think that now, the main actress only needs to -look- at dead people to see their lives.
[11:14] <KenMan> hobx - you know american demographics so well !
[11:14] <hobx_> I think they are making a mistake. People like seeing dead people on TV.
[11:15] <hobx_> Think CSI, Six Feet Under
[11:15] <KenMan> "she touches dead men, and has the power to give them one last erection" -haha
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[11:15] <KenMan> I don't catch that one either (CSI). I am just subjected to all these 'promo' spots...
[11:16] <hobx_> Get Alicia Witt to play the part, and guys won't feel so bad about dying.
[11:18] <KenMan> hobx_ - so where in the world was you born and raised ?
[11:28] <KenMan> no response, huh ? it can't be that embarassing, can it ? well, if it is "a factory" or "a service garage" then that might be best kept to yourself, i suppose
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[11:51] <InsomniaCity> Is Freenet still anonymous even when an attacker can see all network traffic?
[12:00] <i2p_iip> <anon> InsomniaCity: Yes.
[12:06] <TheSeeker> unless said attacker is controlling all but the requesting or inserting node .... (not likely, but theoretically possible)
[12:07] <InsomniaCity> not possible in this case
[12:07] <TheSeeker> of course, theoretically anything is possible, just rather unlikely...
[12:07] <InsomniaCity> Im thinking of running a private freenet at my uni
[12:08] <TheSeeker> neat
[12:08] <InsomniaCity> The attacker is the admins who shut down a DC++ last year, and they would just ban it and the ports rather than actually try and get into it
[12:09] <InsomniaCity> In theory all I need to do is sort of my own seed nodes
[12:09] <InsomniaCity> *sort out
[12:09] <TheSeeker> nothign will stop them from noticing a LOT of traffic and banning ports... though I think freenet chooses one randomly on initial isntall...
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[12:10] <TheSeeker> yeah, start with no seednodes, then export your own node and give it to someone, have them eport their node and give it to someone else, etc.
[12:10] <InsomniaCity> I love the type 'isntall', it reminds me of when I was writing an installer than refused to install... hence it was isntalling.
[12:11] <InsomniaCity> hmm, yeh, it look like it might be actually easier than I thought it would be
[12:11] <TheSeeker> heh, isntall x.x I'm tired :P
[12:14] <jay> i type StringBugger by accident a lot
[12:14] <InsomniaCity> as opposed to what?
[12:14] <jay> StringBuffer ?
[12:15] <InsomniaCity> aha
[12:15] <InsomniaCity> yeh, im learning Java in CS.. so I may dive into the code at some point
[12:15] <jay> StringBuffer is a string that can change, whereas String's are immutable
[12:15] <jay> make sense?
[12:16] <InsomniaCity> oooooooooooh
[12:16] * InsomniaCity would like one of them
[12:16] <|line> does freenet automatically route to the fastest nodes. this might speed up transfers.. if not why is this a bad idea
[12:16] <jay> yeah they're efficient when doing lots of string manipulation
[12:16] <InsomniaCity> OTOH, is there any benefit over essentially creating a new string each time?
[12:16] <jay> InsomniaCity: it makes the garbage collector work harder
[12:16] <InsomniaCity> true
[12:16] <InsomniaCity> so, a speed increase?
[12:17] <jay> |line: not just the fastest node.. to do so would open freenet to black-hole attacks
[12:17] <|line> what is a black-hole attack
[12:17] <jay> InsomniaCity: well, with Strings, every change to the string creates a new String object, so it's prolly slower
[12:17] <jay> |line: all routes are sucked in by a node that "appears" to be the fastest node in the network
[12:18] <jay> |line: it happened a while back.. search the archives for "black hole"
[12:18] <TheSeeker> and the traffic never goes anywhere useful, whee!
[12:18] <InsomniaCity> jay: someone actually attacked freenet?
[12:18] <TheSeeker> broken node?
[12:18] <InsomniaCity> where was the node running?
[12:18] <jay> InsomniaCity: one of the project "members" did it to prove it could be done
[12:18] <jay> then it was fixed
[12:18] <InsomniaCity> jay: is he now an ex-member?
[12:18] <InsomniaCity> the way you said it..
[12:19] <jay> InsomniaCity: no i quoted members since it's all informal.. he's still around
[12:19] <jay> InsomniaCity: didn't mean it *that* way :)
[12:19] <jay> toad appreciated the effort at the time
[12:19] <jay> fixed some nasty NGR bugs
[12:19] * InsomniaCity met toad and Ian
[12:19] <InsomniaCity> was cool
[12:19] <|line> couldnt it route to an intermediate node by averaging out transfer history and sending to the node with an average speed and avoid the slower nodes
[12:19] <jay> id like to meet toad one of these days
[12:20] <jay> |line: that's what NGR attempts to do
[12:20] <InsomniaCity> you in the UK?
[12:20] <jay> InsomniaCity: new york city
[12:20] <InsomniaCity> hmm, what advantages over MUTE does Freenet have for my uni environment?
[12:20] <jay> one of these days i'll get to england
[12:21] <jay> |line: NGR has lots of data it considers in routing messages
[12:22] <|line> thx jay im just trying to understand the synapses which are freenet nodes
[12:22] <TheSeeker> Freenet as a neural net?
[12:23] <|line> well the nodes are basically thinking for themselves
[12:23] <|line> to determind where to route
[12:23] <|line> so yah
[12:24] <jay> is that the definition of a neural net?
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[12:24] <jay> my cs theory is rusty
[12:24] <InsomniaCity> Havent done that yet!
[12:24] <InsomniaCity> only first year!
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[12:25] <|line> computer architecture in which processors are connected in a manner suggestive of connections between neurons; can learn by trial and error
[12:25] <jay> sounds like freenet
[12:25] <jay> i would say the "learning" part is relatively weak
[12:25] <jay> imo
[12:26] <TheSeeker> maybe we should be looking into projects like ALICE to see where learning could be improved...
[12:26] <InsomniaCity> TheSeeker: you a member?
[12:26] <TheSeeker> of what?
[12:27] <InsomniaCity> the project
[12:27] <jay> anyone who participates in the project is a member
[12:27] <jay> some members have CVS access but that's separate
[12:27] <TheSeeker> I can only code in BASIC, so I'm not all that useful past simple brainstorming
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[12:28] <TheSeeker> I can look at a problem from a completely different perspective as those entrenched in the code... beign an idiot and non-java person :P
[12:29] <jay> coders and idiots are mutually exclusive? ;)
[12:29] <greycat> no.
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[12:29] <jay> heh
[12:30] <InsomniaCity> ill second that
[12:30] <InsomniaCity> not in relation to me of course :)
[12:30] <TheSeeker> I've been coding in BASIC derivative s(excluding VB, won't touch it) for some 8 years now ... never moved on to anything more accepted ...
[12:31] <jay> im not a full-time idiot, but i dabble from time to time
[12:31] <TheSeeker> I've written useful stuff in: QBASIC, Liberty Basic, XBasic, and Euphora (one weird ass interpeted language)
[12:31] <|line> what would be cool is if freenet could do processing for other nodes
[12:31] <|line> though it would be awfully slow
[12:31] <|line> it might be good for math intensive projects
[12:31] <TheSeeker> I think I write one pr two "hello world" calliber programs in ANSI C
[12:32] <jay> im working on a NASM hello world
[12:33] <TheSeeker> I understand concepts like subs, functions, loops, arrays, and conditional branches, but can't get my head all the way around OOP, soemthing refuses to click.
[12:33] <InsomniaCity> take a course in it
[12:33] <jay> ah OOP
[12:33] <jay> the other side
[12:34] <jay> it's become natural to think in those terms for me over the years
[12:34] <|line> how much time elapses before a node forwards data and is the data forwarded random
[12:34] <jay> TheSeeker: i learned after getting a job doing delphi which is OO
[12:35] <jay> |line: best to ask toad routing questions
[12:35] <|line> is toad the main devoloper of freenet
[12:35] <jay> yes
[12:35] <|line> ok cool
[12:35] <jay> currently he is
[12:35] <jay> for some time now as well
[12:35] <|line> if we can continue to raise the funds right
[12:35] <jay> |line: yeah basically
[12:36] <InsomniaCity> COOL! I just noticed that one of the SF DL mirrors is hosted like 4 hops from my computer
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[12:36] <InsomniaCity> I love my network connection!
[12:36] <jay> InsomniaCity: heh cool
[12:37] * jay types make xconfig
[12:37] <InsomniaCity> kernel compile?
[12:37] <jay> reconfigure.. get ALSA and all the sound crap working under 2.6
[12:37] <jay> so i can run rosegarden
[12:37] <jay> InsomniaCity: err recompile
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[12:38] <TheSeeker> ooh! I programmed in delphi a little too, sorta, it was a stripped down version used in automated test scripts.
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[12:38] <InsomniaCity> hmmm, I'd better not dl freenet from that mirror really had I?
[12:38] <InsomniaCity> :P
[12:38] * ChanServ sets mode +o toad_
[12:39] <TheSeeker> 'ello toad_
[12:39] <InsomniaCity> you support PDPC and you get a cool hostname? I want one!
[12:41] <InsomniaCity> forgive me for asking this, but Id like to ask toad_ as well... Is freenet really anonymous if the attacker can observe 100% of the traffic?
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[12:48] <InsomniaCity> TheSeeker: ok, how do I set up a distribution node?
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[12:51] <InsomniaCity> heloooooooo?
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[12:55] <TheSeeker> you're asking me? whyfor?
[12:56] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> rtfm =)
[12:56] <InsomniaCity> lol
[12:59] <InsomniaCity> oh how am I supposed to get NodeConfig and freenet.exe when I am running Linux?
[13:01] <InsomniaCity> and seeing as the installer (running in WINE) can't find my JRE (surprise?), I'm going to have to boot to windows to get the files I need.
[13:01] <TheSeeker> config.sh ?
[13:02] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> wha? don't run freenet from wine. there's a unix distribution available on the site...
[13:02] <TheSeeker> if you're runnign Linux, I think you're assumed to be intelligent enough to figure everything out yourself, heh
[13:02] <InsomniaCity> no.. I need those files in order to set up a distrib node
[13:02] <InsomniaCity> stefanboy: no. I am trying to set up a distribution node, and Freenet won't start it without the Windows boostrapping files
[13:03] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> that's very strange
[13:03] <TheSeeker> get them from freenetproject.org/snapshots
[13:05] <InsomniaCity> aha
[13:05] <InsomniaCity> brilliant thank you!
[13:08] <InsomniaCity> are bookmarks copied when you install like that?
[13:09] <TheSeeker> *shrug*
[13:09] <TheSeeker> I'm a windoze user, and have never used the distobution servlet thing.
[13:09] <TheSeeker> +r
[13:10] <InsomniaCity> no worries... ill just create a bookmark or two, and try seeing if they get copied
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[13:17] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> i tried i2p today. it's much faster than freenet, but somehow it does not feel as anonymous...
[13:17] <InsomniaCity> I used to be on i2p, before it died
[13:18] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> it is very much alive at the moment
[13:18] <InsomniaCity> and evidently not much latency either!
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[14:42] <toad_> woah, it pours!: http://nosoftwarepatents.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=233 http://nosoftwarepatents.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=233
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[16:12] <blured44> hi
[16:12] <blured44> the freenet website is really slow :(
[16:13] <blured44> 383B / s to download
[16:13] <blured44> do you see the same thing ?
[16:13] <blured44> from your connection ?
[16:20] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> do you mean www.freenetproject.org?
[16:21] <blured44> yes
[16:21] <blured44> :(
[16:21] <blured44> I'm using the update.sh
[16:21] <blured44> and really slow too
[16:22] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> ACTION isn't sure.
[16:22] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> whoops, guess that doesn't work. anyway, i don't know. the html pages are loading quickly for me...
[16:23] <blured44> yes but the download of last tar.gz?
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[16:24] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> 150KB/s
[16:24] <blured44> shit
[16:24] <blured44> perhaps it is my ISP
[16:24] <blured44> I'm at 256,02B/s
[16:25] <blured44> B not KB ;) !!!
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[16:47] <InsomniaCity> how do I find out my freenet node's key?
[16:47] <InsomniaCity> not key.... reference
[16:55] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> /servlet/nodestatus/myref.txt
[16:58] <InsomniaCity> ta
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[17:11] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> anyone know of a way to form a relative freenet URI in HTML? in other words, i don't want to have to include the "localhost:8888/" before the URI. not everyone accesses freenet locally
[17:11] <InsomniaCity> stefanboy: just link to SSK@blah
[17:11] <InsomniaCity> so <a href="SSK@mypornssk">My porn</a>
[17:12] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> that will append "SKK@blah" onto the end of the current site being accessed...
[17:13] <InsomniaCity> It didnt last time I used freenet
[17:13] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> also, can someone give me the URI to the Freenet Help Index
[17:13] <InsomniaCity> well, link to /SSK@blah then
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[17:15] <i2p_iip> <Pseudonym> SSK@rjYFfgPHfolmcStiaoxESFfBXz8PAgM/FreenetHelp//
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[17:32] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> are ssk keys generated at random, or by a hash dependent on the content of the file?
[17:32] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> are ssk keys generated at random, or by a hash dependent on the content of the file?
[17:32] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> are ssk keys generated at random, or by a hash dependent on the content of the file?
[17:32] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> are ssk keys generated at random, or by a hash dependent on the content of the file?
[17:33] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> whoa. i only sent that request once, but i got the message back four times
[17:34] <InsomniaCity> SSKs are Subspace Signed Keys... like a secure space to put your freesite
[17:35] <InsomniaCity> from what I understand... Freenet actually retrieves content based on CHKs, the hash of the actual file, and everything else like SSK and KSK is merely a way to get the CHK
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[17:46] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> ah, okay, so CHK URIs are actually file hashes. cool
[17:46] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> ah, okay, so CHK URIs are actually file hashes. cool
[18:07] <InsomniaCity> Content Hash Key
[18:07] <InsomniaCity> (thats a yes :) )
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[18:40] <i2p_iip> <mrflibble> evenin all
[18:40] <i2p_iip> <mrflibble> evenin all
[18:40] <i2p_iip> <mrflibble> ne1 around?
[18:40] <i2p_iip> <stefanboy> hiya
[18:40] <i2p_iip> <mrflibble> hiya stefanboy :)
[18:40] <i2p_iip> <mrflibble> hiya stefanboy :)
[18:40] <i2p_iip> <mrflibble> hiya stefanboy :)
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