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[16:51] <psycho8me> freenet is slow
[16:55] <jepel_tailweaver> you into anonymous networks?
[16:55] <jepel_tailweaver> and yeh, freenet is slower than molasses going uphill, in my experience
[16:56] <Redb3ard> bah
[16:56] <Redb3ard> dont insult them in their own channel
[16:56] <Redb3ard> ;)
[16:56] <Redb3ard> it is a matter of tradeoffs, as always
[16:56] <Redb3ard> anonymity to speed, as it were, how much of which do you want?
[16:57] <psycho8me> lol, ok I can understand that. But java sure does love memory
[16:57] <jepel_tailweaver> statement of fact != insult </pedantry>
[16:57] <jepel_tailweaver> and using Java doesn't help either
[16:57] <jepel_tailweaver> I should try freenet again
[16:57] <jepel_tailweaver> my box has 640 MB of RAM
[16:58] <psycho8me> I start freenet it sucks up 500MB
[16:58] <jepel_tailweaver> damn
[16:58] <jepel_tailweaver> how much RAM do you have on your box?
[16:58] <psycho8me> 512
[16:59] <psycho8me> I think my node is way overloaded, the load is consistently above 100%
[17:00] <psycho8me> very little cpu usage though
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[18:14] <jepel_tailweaver> it's so quiet here
[18:16] <Toast> Normally is
[18:17] <jepel_tailweaver> hey toad_
[18:17] <jepel_tailweaver> *Toast
[18:19] <Toast> Hi
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[18:22] <Bryan_W> hmmm someone should try compiling freenet with gcj :)
[18:23] <jepel_tailweaver> gcj? is that the thingy that compiles Java code into an executable>
[18:23] <Toast> People often try and often fail
[18:23] <Toast> Something to do with poor NIO support in gcj
[18:24] <jepel_tailweaver> I'm just going to nod and smile because I have no idea what NIO is
[18:25] <Toast> Non blocking IO. It allows the network connections to run using less threads and makes things much more efficent
[18:25] <jepel_tailweaver> ahh
[18:25] <jepel_tailweaver> Toast, are you finding Freenet slow atm?
[18:26] <Toast> Not especially, though to be honst, I haven't been browsing much lately
[18:26] <jepel_tailweaver> I haven't used it in a while
[18:26] <jepel_tailweaver> And I should try it again, because I have 640MB of RAM now
[18:27] <jepel_tailweaver> if it works with Blackdown JRE, then I'd try it. I can't really be bothered to install the Sun JRE
[18:27] <Toast> I think there is the same problem with Blackdown as with GCJ, but you had better get a second oppinion on that
[18:28] <jepel_tailweaver> damn
[18:28] <jepel_tailweaver> ah wel, I'll try anyway
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[18:28] <jepel_tailweaver> after all, if at first you don't succeed, you can win bets against less prophetic / forward-thinking people
[18:28] <Toast> From what I hear, NIO support is being worked on by those projects, so they should catchup eventually
[18:29] <Toast> :)
[18:29] <jepel_tailweaver> Ah, I love my broadband connection
[18:29] <jepel_tailweaver> Freenet will take less than a minute to download
[18:29] <Toast> hehehh... new toy?
[18:30] <jepel_tailweaver> not really
[18:30] <jepel_tailweaver> it's starting now
[18:30] <Toast> My hand hurts. Why did I go and use a pen today, not a keyboard?
[18:31] <jepel_tailweaver> hey! I have Sun Java! Who'd have thought it?
[18:31] <Toast> Well, there you go.
[18:31] <jepel_tailweaver> sneaky machines, computers
[18:31] <jepel_tailweaver> the Freenet port, do I need to open it for TCP or UDP?
[18:32] <Toast> TCP
[18:33] <Toast> Freenet does seem to be getting better at finding stuff again.
[18:39] <jepel_tailweaver> hmm
[18:39] <Toast> Well good luck with your node. Remember it will take a few days uptime before you get the best out of your node. Night.
[18:39] <jepel_tailweaver> I know
[18:39] <jepel_tailweaver> night Toast
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[18:47] <KenMan> [sim] while the range wiggles about a good bit, I would call this steady success (200M reqs) - http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jkcorson/FreeNet/200x16x5x250.png
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[19:06] <jepel_tailweaver> wb Usurp
[19:07] <Usurp> hi
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[21:12] <KenMan> yo lostlogic , how's life these days ? busy busy ?
[21:13] <lostlogic> insanely busy
[21:13] <KenMan> running freenet simulations has cooked one of my memory modules :(
[21:13] <lostlogic> I'm working (idly) on getting a new job where I can work less hours for similar money
[21:13] <lostlogic> oh my!
[21:13] <KenMan> less work / more money - that's progress :)
[21:14] <lostlogic> yeah... what's that backup company that starts with a V? I'm supposed to be interviewing with them this week sometime
[21:14] <lostlogic> they want someone with kernel experience though which I realy have kernel patching, not coding experience
[21:14] <KenMan> It was bound to happen, once I saw the heatsink (very very dusty). I blame freenet only because that is what happened to heat things up on the particular day :o
[21:14] <KenMan> Veritas ?
[21:14] <lostlogic> Yeah, them!
[21:14] <lostlogic> ahh, yeah
[21:15] <KenMan> In this market, having patching experience puts you way beyond most 'linux coders/support personnel' :)
[21:15] <KenMan> that's neat. I've known the name for a long time. Recently had to reconfigure a Seagate tape unit with the Veritas software.
[21:16] <lostlogic> fun
[21:16] <KenMan> Didn't realize they did PC tape backup stuff. But they have a well known name.
[21:16] <KenMan> I guess most of the money these days is in 'network attached storage'
[21:17] <KenMan> Build a big RAID and make everything dump on it ;)
[21:18] <lostlogic> heh yeha
[21:18] <KenMan> well, good luck anyway. Must shutdown soon to relocate the remaining SIMM, distancing it from the heatsink (currently about 1cm)
[21:18] <KenMan> simulations are interesting. Seems toad is learning a good bit from it, I know I am.
[21:18] <lostlogic> yeah, interesting stuff
[21:19] <lostlogic> I still follow all the CVS commits for freenet even though I'm just a lurker in here
[21:19] <KenMan> if things don't head in a more productive direction in the next FEW months, I don't think Hops is going to survive.
[21:20] <KenMan> Things may be marginally better than 1 or 2 years ago, but not significantly. That has to change... We know how bad it is, and there's MUCH room for improvement.
[21:32] <Zorix> only thing that hasnt changed... java
[21:32] <Zorix> heh
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