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[3:36] <nextgens> hi
[3:38] <Ash-Fox> In soviet russia the porn watches you... and it's possible thanks to the JPEG exploit in microsoft products, allowing one to create a virus with webcam support
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[4:02] <Toast> My stable nodes routing seems to be specalising, but also seems to change dramaticly when I restart the node. Could my node be quickly adapting to the network, but the network not be adapting to my node? If this is the case, a large % of the data in my store would likely be unretrevable by the network.
[4:03] <Ash-Fox> Fun :/
[4:07] <Toast> Well, it's an improvement. Anything stored since I last upgraded would be available to the netork.
[4:07] <Toast> It would be worth looking to see if network performance dips around a new version release.
[4:10] <nextgens> in http://localhost:8888/servlet/nodestatus/inbound_request_histogram.txt I have 2 --> (0.9160305)5 --> (1.0687023)8 --> (1.2824427)b --> (1.4351145)d --> (1.6183206) ... fairly high isn't it?
[4:11] <Toast> it is. Heres the difference between my highest and lowest.
[4:11] <Toast> 0 |================================================================
[4:11] <Toast> 5 |=========================
[4:11] * mazzanet puts Toast in the toaster
[4:12] * Toast hopes its a dulite
[4:12] <nextgens> mine :
[4:13] <nextgens> a
[4:13] <nextgens> ===============================================================
[4:13] <nextgens> 2 |===========================
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[9:18] <toad_> <Toast> My stable nodes routing seems to be specalising, but also seems to change dramaticly when I restart the node. Could my node be quickly adapting to the network, but the network not be adapting to my node? If this is the case, a large % of the data in my store would likely be unretrevable by the network.
[9:18] <toad_> hmmm
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[9:22] <toad_> http://amphibian.dyndns.org/simulations2-new.png
[9:22] <toad_> this is perplexing...
[9:23] <d-ArkAngel> now that is a strange looking graph...
[9:24] <toad_> the two lines that are going really badly are with sparseprobe...
[9:26] <cbreak> I asume the Y-Axis is sucess percentage. X-Axis is number of keys inserted/requested?
[9:26] <toad_> yes
[9:26] <toad_> number of requests
[9:26] <toad_> alternatively you can see it as time
[9:26] <toad_> now, what does sparseprobe actually do?
[9:27] <toad_> sparseprobe -> freenet.node.simulator.Node.PROBE_ONLY_WHEN_NECESSARY
[9:27] <toad_> which afaics (and i wrote it..) prevents random routing if all nodes have 20 hits or more
[9:28] <toad_> in the other graphs, random routing happens always, on every 20th request (at random)
[9:28] <toad_> this of course means psuccess above 95% is unlikely
[9:31] <cbreak> so random routing is better than NGR? (Or better than nothing?)
[9:31] <toad_> no
[9:31] <toad_> if you look at the full graph, true random routing really sucks
[9:31] <toad_> http://amphibian.dyndns.org/simulations2.png
[9:31] <toad_> see the green line at the bottom?
[9:32] <cbreak> oh. impressive :)
[9:32] <toad_> ;)
[9:33] <toad_> but it seems that we need ongoing probe requests.. or at least, we need them much later than the point where every rt node has 20 hits...
[9:34] <toad_> http://amphibian.dyndns.org/simulations2-newbie.png
[9:35] <toad_> imho the best line is (potentially anyway) the silver one
[9:35] <toad_> well silver-blue-purple
[9:35] <toad_> fastestimators pcaching nonewbie probeinexperience randomizewhenequal
[9:35] <toad_> however it might be the one that doesn't have randomizewhenequal
[9:35] <toad_> but for load distribution reasons i doubt it
[9:36] <toad_> and even if that were true, it wouldn't help us much
[9:37] <toad_> what we need to run now... is a pink/purple without the sparseprobe...
[9:40] <toad_> yeah
[9:41] * toad_ runs fastestimators pcaching nonewbie probeinexperience randomizewhenequal
[9:41] <toad_> hmmm
[9:41] <toad_> doh
[9:41] <toad_> no
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[9:46] <d-ArkAngel> ok i realise I'm probably due to be scorned for this but.... how do I get a copy of the source, I've never really used CVS before....
[9:47] <toad_> http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=978
[9:47] <cbreak> what platform are you on?
[9:47] <toad_> module freenet
[9:47] <d-ArkAngel> Linux
[9:47] <toad_> that's for command line cvs...
[9:48] <d-ArkAngel> cool
[9:53] <d-ArkAngel> does this module inculde the simulations that you're talking about/experimenting with?
[9:54] <mazzanet> cvs checkout freenet
[9:54] <mazzanet> :P
[9:56] <toad_> d-ArkAngel: the one i've been doing yet
[9:56] <toad_> yes
[10:00] <d-ArkAngel> now it's finished grabbing the files, where's the meat of the simulator?
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[10:01] <d-ArkAngel> ahh here we are, /scripts/simulatory
[10:01] <toad_> src/freenet/node/simulator/
[10:01] <toad_> scripts/simulator are a couple of support scripts
[10:01] <toad_> the meat is in src/freenet/node/simulator/
[10:01] <d-ArkAngel> ahh right
[10:01] <d-ArkAngel> cool
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[10:01] <d-ArkAngel> I'll have a read and see if I can follow what's going on :-)
[10:10] <d-ArkAngel> Nice to see the java tradition of huge method names is being continued :-)
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[10:33] <d-ArkAngel> So the simulations are all on a fully connected network then?
[10:42] <nextgens> toad_: regarding to what I've in my logs, NaN errors on 5095 doesn't come from only a few node...
[10:43] <nextgens> toad_: previously I had 4 nodes sending NaN and now I've got fairly the same number but it comes from different nodes... (port and DSA aren't the same)
[10:43] <toad_> hmmm
[10:43] <toad_> d-ArkAngel: so far yes
[10:43] <toad_> nextgens: hmmm
[10:46] <nextgens> toad_: and I got 17 ' TransferInsert source sent bad data! Report if occurs often.' with 6 hours, ? 35 minutes uptime
[10:49] <d-ArkAngel> do 64 bit versions of java cause problems with that?
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[10:59] <toad_> d-ArkAngel: huh?
[10:59] <toad_> nextgens|away: hmmm
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[11:11] <toad_> |The project's current Paypal balance is $488.01.
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[11:48] <toad__> my other IRC client crashed again...
[11:48] <toad__> Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5089 |
[11:48] <toad__> Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5090 |==
[11:48] <toad__> Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5091 |=======
[11:49] <toad__> Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5092 |
[11:49] <toad__> Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5093 |
[11:49] <toad__> Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5094 |
[11:49] <toad__> Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5095 |===============================================================
[11:49] <toad__> anyone like to share their stats?
[11:49] <toad__> are they similar to this?
[11:49] <toad__> i.e. can i make a recent build mandatory without causing too much disruption?
[11:51] <toad__> hmmm
[11:51] <toad__> 5093 fixed some pretty drastic bugs in queueing...
[11:51] <toad__> 5095 too arguably...
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[12:24] <Zorix-> [12:42pm] [Zorix] fix things in 95 then make it 96 and mandatory
[12:24] <Zorix-> [12:43pm] * Disconnected
[12:27] <toad__> Zorix-: how many on your node?
[12:28] <toad__> what's your distribution?
[12:28] <Zorix-> i dunno
[12:31] <Zorix-> dunno where to find it
[12:33] <ejhuff> # Histogram of node versions in fred's Routing table
[12:33] <ejhuff> # Sep 18, 2004 12:40:09 PM
[12:33] <ejhuff> # nodes: 394
[12:33] <ejhuff> Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5090 3
[12:34] <ejhuff> Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5091 28
[12:34] <ejhuff> Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5092 9
[12:34] <ejhuff> Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5093 2
[12:34] <ejhuff> Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5094 4
[12:34] <ejhuff> Fred,0.5,STABLE-1.50,5095 347
[12:34] <ejhuff> unknown 1
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[22:09] <KenMan> chat chat chatty-chat-chat !
[22:09] <addos> ha
[22:36] <mazzanet> splat!
[22:36] <addos> splat
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