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[0:02] <{xmb}> raised that and a few others, restarted with java 1.4.1 instead 1.5, now its consuming like 3x more CPU power, also constantly needs more CPU,but more (137) connections vs like 30 before, but still cant find shit
[0:02] <{xmb}> and is uploading at 100% since the restart
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[0:15] <{xmb}> now with 145 nodes major sites show up, not much more... 26 min uptime and 77MB transferred, 5MB waiting to get... laters
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[2:01] <gusgizmo> hello
[2:01] <gusgizmo> im having some trouble getting my node setup
[2:02] <gusgizmo> oh, i suppose i must upgrade my software
[2:03] <ShaunMacPherson> hi
[2:04] <ShaunMacPherson> do you have java vertial machine?
[2:04] <ShaunMacPherson> if you are using windows you can auto update
[2:04] <ShaunMacPherson> freenet
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[2:17] <KenMan> Current estimated load for rate limiting: 73,467.9% . Hmmph. Well, if it says so, then it must be true.
[2:18] <gusgizmo> i just now tried the auto update
[2:18] <gusgizmo> it said that my install was corrupted, so i am reinstalling
[2:22] <ShaunMacPherson> good ide
[2:22] <ShaunMacPherson> a
[2:23] <ShaunMacPherson> if its new why not :)
[2:23] <ShaunMacPherson> also you can download a version that has java already with it
[2:46] <gusgizmo> i have java
[2:46] <gusgizmo> ok, connnecting
[2:48] <gusgizmo> alright, im on, now i am going to the gateway page
[2:50] <gusgizmo> can anyone give me a page to go to?
[2:50] <gusgizmo> all of the thumbnails on the gateway page are broken, im guessing the links are as well
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[3:28] <ShaunMacPherson> is it working?
[3:28] <ShaunMacPherson> keep trying
[3:28] <ShaunMacPherson> :o)
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[3:50] <gusgizmo> ok, i have a page now
[3:50] <gusgizmo> wowo, this is intense
[3:50] * gusgizmo was sarcastic
[3:50] <gusgizmo> but ill keep trying, i want to publish a site on anarchy on freenet
[3:50] <gusgizmo> or rather, mirror it onto freenet. i have some balls, after all
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[5:40] <Iakin> [03:32] <KenMan> yo Iakin, whazza happenin' ? you been out drinking or something ??
[5:40] <Iakin> Yups, exactly that ;)
[5:42] * Iakin yesterday fixed up the cooling of his harddrives... from 70 degrees celcius down to 34..
[5:42] <Iakin> Quite an improvement
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[6:49] <gusgizmo> helo
[6:50] <gusgizmo> i was just wondering about my node: its slow as fuck
[6:50] <gusgizmo> is this normal?
[6:50] <gusgizmo> also, i was wondering about the transient/permanent settings
[6:51] <gusgizmo> i cant get to them after i enable them in the serious geeks only page
[6:51] <gusgizmo> im on dial-up, so my node is obviously transient
[6:52] <gusgizmo> ok, i just tweaked it a bit
[6:52] <gusgizmo> picked waaayy up
[6:52] <gusgizmo> compared to it not moving. . . .
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[6:53] <gusgizmo> hi
[6:53] <gusgizmo> anyone active, anyone at all?
[6:54] <gusgizmo> grr
[6:54] <gusgizmo> my connection just dropped again
[6:55] <gusgizmo> i want to explode
[7:17] <ShaunMacPherson> hi
[7:17] <ShaunMacPherson> i am here
[7:17] <ShaunMacPherson> dropped, what does that mean?
[7:21] <gusgizmo> its kind of funky
[7:21] <gusgizmo> im not seeing most of the links
[7:21] <gusgizmo> and sometimes i have to restart, to be able to continue
[7:23] <ShaunMacPherson> hmmm
[7:24] <ShaunMacPherson> a lot of the time it takes a while for a website to load, if at all :o)
[7:24] <ShaunMacPherson> freenet is good if u have fuqid though and the goal is to download some files, rather then say a website
[7:24] <ShaunMacPherson> since fuqid keeps trying
[7:35] <gusgizmo> i see
[7:35] <gusgizmo> i think ill grab that app
[7:35] <gusgizmo> if their site comes up. . . .
[7:41] <ShaunMacPherson> fuqid is on freenet you are right lol
[7:41] <ShaunMacPherson> :o)
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[9:35] <guido^pe> hi, since build 5090 or 5091 (can't remember exactly), http://127.0.0.1:8888/servlet/nodestatus/inboundRequests.txt will always show exactly zero successful requests for each host
[9:36] <guido^pe> http://127.0.0.1:8888/servlet/nodestatus/psuccess_data.txt however usually shows a reasonable success rate. Is this known? Is this something to worry about?
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[11:57] <MrLaminar> hi everyone
[11:57] <MrLaminar> i just ran freenet for the first time
[11:58] <MrLaminar> and by clicking the links on the bookmarks page i get a message "Couldn't retrieve key: SSK@blahblah"
[11:58] <MrLaminar> what gives?
[12:01] <vsalento> MsLaminar: it will take for a while for your node to learn about other nodes. Let it run for few hours and it should work a little better.
[12:03] <MrLaminar> ok
[12:03] <MrLaminar> thanks for the info
[12:04] <MrLaminar> ok, now it loaded one index bookmark
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[12:10] <vsalento> MrLaminar: there is OCM page (open connection manager) that shows number of incoming/outgoing connections. You can look those figures to see how well you are integrated to the network.
[12:11] <vsalento> MrLaminar: when total number is around 100 it should work quite well, and if incoming connections remains 0 then you have blocking firewall that causes problems and will slow things down
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[12:12] <gtank> Is their some other way to view network statistics for freenet besides using the internal web interface? Maybe a gkrellm plugin... or a packetfiltering something or other?
[12:19] <gtank> Guess not... :P Also, I was reading slashdot and heard about the Coral P2P Cache moving into a public beta (it.slashdot.com).
[12:19] <vsalento> gtank: don't really know. It is possible that some diagnostic values are accessible through FCP but I'm not familiar with that.
[12:20] <gtank> Bah, I didn't think so. :\ Ah well, twas worth a shot.
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[12:31] <MrLaminar> where does the repository reside in my HD?
[12:32] <gtank> freenode/store/
[12:32] <MrLaminar> i have no such dir in ~
[12:33] <gtank> Where did you install freenode? It should be in there... :\
[12:33] <MrLaminar> a ok
[12:33] <MrLaminar> thx
[12:33] <MrLaminar> bye
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[12:49] <jay> gtank: look at this page http://freenetproject.org/index.php?page=fcp under "NodeInfo"
[12:49] <jay> gtank: is that the info you're looking for
[12:51] <jay> that's all fcp does at the moment
[12:52] <gtank> alright, thanx. :)
[12:52] <Iakin> [18:40] <vsalento> gtank: don't really know. It is possible that some diagnostic values are accessible through FCP but I'm not familiar with that.
[12:53] <Iakin> Nope, they arent :(
[12:53] <Iakin> Interesting idea though
[12:55] <jay> Iakin: ive thought about it myself
[12:55] <jay> could write a simple app like top
[12:56] <gtank> or just modify ntop
[12:56] <jay> it would query the node every x seconds with a better fcp message than 'NodeInfo'
[12:56] <jay> gtank: well it would need to speak FCP across a sockey
[12:56] <jay> socket
[12:57] <jay> Iakin: i might do a simple one with the current stats NodeInfo returns just to prove the concept
[12:58] <gtank> Yeah. I'm using ngrep right now, and I am feeding the output into awk... lol. I want something that just collects long term statistics... kind of like some P2P clients do...
[12:59] <gtank> Most popular nodes that my host connects to... average total number of active sockets... etc...
[12:59] <jay> gtank: no one else has proposed doing diags any other way than through the web interface
[13:00] <gtank> If anything I would imagine developing such a utility would benefit the freenet devs dramatically.
[13:00] <jay> gtank: but it would be useful
[13:00] <jay> it would require a lot of thought though
[13:01] <jay> due to the volume of diagnostics
[13:01] <jay> targeted queries would work better
[13:01] <jay> that means more FCP messages perhaps
[13:01] <jay> still it can be done
[13:01] <jay> gtank: why not send an emil to Dev about it?
[13:02] <gtank> I will. ;)
[13:02] <jay> describe what you're doing currently to get around it as well
[13:02] <jay> i'd do all the required FCP work myself
[13:03] <gtank> Sure. Any dev in particular that I should fire the info off to?
[13:03] <jay> nah just the list in general
[13:04] <jay> perhaps Tech to be *really* polite
[13:04] <jay> most things are on topic @ tech and all the major devs read it
[13:04] <jay> tech@freenetproject.org
[13:06] <jay> Text on Windows Product Activation -> http://www.licenturion.com/xp/fully-licensed-wpa.txt
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[14:46] <guido^pe> Could someone tell why the inbound requests log is showing zero success for every host since build 5090 or 5091 (cant't remember exactly when it started)?
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[15:19] <jay> guido^pe: is the port u opened in a firewall the same as defined in your conf file?
[15:20] <jay> check if it changed somehow
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[15:38] <guido^pe> jay: No, it's not that my node isn't receiving any request, it's just that the inbound requests log doesn't show any successful ones. (psuccess.txt, however, does show a fair success rate)
[15:41] <guido^pe> btw, I think nowadays even if I could not accept inbound connections, I'd still be getting requests, right?
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[15:46] <jay> guido^pe: it would depend on your setup
[15:46] <jay> but that's the simplest thing and id check that first
[15:46] <jay> u tweak the .conf file?
[15:49] <jay> my node's working rather well and i don't even run it properly (always shutting it down for one)
[16:02] <guido^pe> jay: My node, too, is working rather well atm, it's just that irritating thing with the log
[16:10] <KenMan> guido^pe: I just looked into it. I'm the one who added the success count, but that was some time ago. The code has changed substantially since then :(
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[17:06] <KenMan> it looks like request queueing is doing good things. But so far I cannot quantify the gain...
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[17:07] <KenMan> the percent of routes backed off (as shown in the RT) has dropped substantially. So has the average mRI provided by each route.
[17:08] <KenMan> 10 or 20 hours of 5092 uptime should reveal whether success rates are improving at all...
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[17:51] <Iakin> Hmmm.. routingSuccessRatio seems to have skyrocketed lately
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[17:52] <Iakin> Quadrupled during the last week it would seem
[17:53] <Iakin> SAm with requestSuccessRation
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[19:30] <KenMan> that makes sense for the Iakin Rubbernode !! but i wonder about the more typical nodes with ordinary bandwidth...
[19:34] <|UK-Monster|> happy then :)
[19:35] <KenMan> I am getting tons of "Node id: DSA(xxxx yyyy) has no peerhandler!" with 5092 :(
[19:36] <KenMan> 15136 of them in under four hours of uptime :o
[19:36] * KenMan tries to take comfort in the possibility that toad would say "that's not really an error" ...
[19:38] <KenMan> the average mRI from all routes seems to have fallen to half what it was a week ago. That's a good thing.
[19:40] <KenMan> backedOffCount is reporting that almost all the request routings are getting their first choice, which i simply do not believe.
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[20:45] <|UK-Monster|> heh
[20:46] <|UK-Monster|> (OS) Windows 2000 Enterprise Server, Service Pack 4 (5.0 - 2195), (installed for) 80w 18h 21m, (uptime) 7w 1d 3h 28m 46s, (record) 10w 1d 42m 38s (set on 06.02.2004 23:34 using Win2K)
[20:47] <KenMan> cool, it sure is nice when things work in a reliable manner.
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[21:31] <^TinCan^> Hello all.
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[21:45] <KenMan> this is silly, with only a single peer, all requests from him are routed back to him, which results in a QR:looped, which I then send back a RNF for...
[21:45] <KenMan> :p
[21:46] <KenMan> the poor peer has no clue that so far I'm non-functional ... and he seems to like me, as he sends me lots of requests...
[21:49] <KenMan> no, wait. It gets even better - since I still have some htl to use up, i send the request to him repeatedly, always encountering Looped Request, until I use up the HTLs. Then I tell him it DNFed or RNFed (not sure which yet)
[21:49] <KenMan> why am i stuck with one peer ?? ? ?? ?
[21:50] <Darven> maybe you need to update your seednodes.ref
[21:50] <KenMan> it is the most recent available. I just restarted once or twice, and now ...
[21:51] <KenMan> i think it is time for another restart... i don't know what else to do.
[21:51] * KenMan lets his node cool off before restarting...
[21:52] <Darven> if I haven't touched the config, I'll usually let it plow its way through for a couple days before seeing if something's actually broken
[21:52] <Darven> hard to tell
[21:53] <KenMan> heh, yes, it is difficult to tell if FreeNet is busted
[21:53] * KenMan says, "here we go again" and flips the switch
[22:00] <KenMan> bah, same troubles, different peer.
[22:01] <KenMan> I wonder why Fred is not scheduling any open-connection attempts ??
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[22:17] <KenMan> we need them per-route failure tables yesterday !!!
[22:18] <KenMan> even with 18 peers, I routed one request out to the same peer 9 times...
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