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[1:54] <TheSeeker> gah, I'm bored. damn move, no TV, no computer, stuck on this POS Cyrix that has trouble displaying images correctly.
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[3:30] <jeff2> TheSeeker, so that rules out pr0n
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[5:13] <kevloral> g'morning all
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[5:38] <bismuth> good moring
[5:38] <bismuth> i have a question
[5:39] <bismuth> my node has been running for 12hours now
[5:39] <bismuth> and knows only :
[5:39] <bismuth> Number of known routing nodes 398
[5:54] <TheSeeker> stable or unstable?
[5:57] <sanity> hi all
[5:57] <TheSeeker> 400 nodes seems like a lot. :P
[6:01] <bismuth> stable
[6:01] <bismuth> well 9 route out of 10 cant be found
[6:01] <TheSeeker> that's normal, unfortunately.
[6:01] <bismuth> hum
[6:02] <TheSeeker> eveyone is backed off
[6:02] <bismuth> could you give me an uri of downloadable file ?
[6:02] <bismuth> to test
[6:02] <bismuth> "backed off" ?
[6:03] <TheSeeker> the node has too many requests it's trying to fill already, so it's rejecting new ones and telling you not to try again for x minutes... when that's the case, you try nodes which are much less likely to be able to handle the request, and often end up with RNFs
[6:04] <bismuth> lol ok
[6:07] <TheSeeker> I think they're still looking for that magical routing algorithm that will work without overloading nodes... I think that's what the Sliding Bucket Keyspace Estimator thing is all about.
[6:09] <sanity> the problem is probably clients, not the node itself
[6:09] <sanity> if you have too many requests going into the network then it doesn't matter what routing algorithm you use, you are screwed
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[6:45] <toad_> <ShaunMacPherson> http://wired.com/news/print/0,1294,64237,00.html P2P for democracy, a P2P application designed to share government secrets. This is something I2P should be involved with - we've had stuff like this, we still do
[6:45] <toad_> maybe not in the sort of volumes I like..
[6:45] <toad_> but we've had publicity for it
[6:48] <toad_> sanity: maybe
[6:48] <toad_> sanity: or maybe it's routing still being broken
[6:48] <sanity> yeah, my estimators *still* look kinda crazy
[6:50] <toad_> bbiab
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[13:36] <toad_> hi
[13:46] <Ash-Foxy> http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,64237,00.html <- this is what freenet should be used for... NOT KAZAA!
[13:47] <greycat> they probably tried to insert something into freenet. That would've stopped any such ideas....
[13:47] <toad_> <Iakin> thelema: Are you rewriting SBKE.java?
[13:47] <toad_> <Iakin> Or are you rewriting the code around it?
[13:47] <toad_> <Iakin> Anyways.. I am in the process of splitting SBKE.java into SBKE.java and a utility class named BucketStore.java
[13:47] <toad_> <Iakin> Much in the same way as I did with the old estimators and RoutingPointStore.java
[13:47] <toad_> <thelema> doh.
[13:47] <toad_> <Iakin3> huh?
[13:47] <toad_> <thelema> I'm in the process of taking all the estimator code and splitting things up so there's TimeKeyspaceEstimators, RateKeyspaceEstimatore and ProbabilityKeyspaceEstimators
[13:47] <toad_> <thelema> i.e. no more KeyspaceEstimator.TIME, TRANSFER_RATE, or PROBABILITY
[13:47] <toad_> <thelema> The way I'm doing this is by having TimeKE take a KE as argument in its constructor
[13:47] <toad_> <thelema> although it's looking like I'm going to have to deal with the KEFactory issue somehow...
[13:47] <toad_> <thelema> I'm not looking forward to making three Factories.
[13:47] <toad_> <thelema> especially with how the factory is passed all the way down through NGRoutingTable and StandardNodeEstimator.
[13:47] <toad_> <thelema> the rewrite I'm doing seems to be very similar to what I imagine you're doing.
[13:47] <toad_> <thelema> because I'm moving all the domain-specific code to seperate files
[13:47] <toad_> <thelema> and
[13:47] <toad_> <thelema> leaving just a guessRaw() and reportRaw() interface
[13:47] <toad_> <thelema> in SBKE
[13:47] <toad_> <thelema> make sense?
[13:47] <toad_> <Iakin> Hmmm.
[13:47] <toad_> <Iakin> I am not so sure it is similar
[13:47] <toad_> <Iakin> I am creating a class that stores the bucket information and exposes a bunch of suitable retrieval methods
[13:47] <toad_> <Iakin> see it as a wrapper of ra[] & pals
[13:48] <toad_> <Iakin> bbl
[13:48] <toad_> <thelema> ah, so you're breaking it up into a data-structure class and a KE class
[13:48] <toad_> <thelema> so that the data structure is able to organize itself correctly.
[13:48] <toad_> <thelema> I approve. Go ahead. My rewrite is taking a while (there's a lot of code out there for me to change)
[13:48] <toad_> <thelema> If you checkin in a few days, I'll adjust my changes to yours.
[13:48] <toad_> ummm
[13:48] <toad_> where does that leave me if I have to debug the current code ? :)
[13:48] <toad_> Ash-Foxy: Freenet is harder to use than Kazaa, and a million or so people already have kazaa
[13:48] <toad_> and kazaa works :|
[13:48] * Ash-Foxy doesn't use freenet due to the large consumption of bandwith :/
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[13:49] <toad_> ANY sustainable peer to peer will use a large amount of bandwidth
[13:49] <toad_> that's just life
[13:49] <Ash-Fox> Freenet seems to take alot more than others, and does worse off
[13:50] <toad_> Ash-Fox: I repeat: no p2p will survive unless it uses a lot of bandwidth
[13:51] <toad_> because it's not p2p if it doesn't use a lot of bandwidth
[13:51] <toad_> it's s2p
[13:51] <toad_> however you can tune freenet's bandwidth just like bittorrent's
[13:52] <Ash-Fox> I found the actual only way of doing it correctly was by using bandwith limitting software, since freenet can't control the downrate properly
[13:52] <toad_> it can't?
[13:52] <toad_> oh, downlink
[13:52] <toad_> yeah
[13:52] <toad_> I don't think input
[13:52] <toad_> inputBandwidthLimit works
[13:53] <toad_> but I doubt we'll have many users that need it
[13:53] * Ash-Fox does
[13:53] <toad_> even in Nasty Places, they're more likely to have a dial-up than metered broadband
[13:53] <Ash-Fox> I do stupid things with freenet really :/
[13:53] <Ash-Fox> Like running spiders on the network
[13:53] <toad_> well i suppose in Nasty Places the target market is students, who have LAN access but need to limit traffic
[13:53] <Ash-Fox> mapping out all the sites I can find
[13:53] <toad_> Ash-Fox: you get what's coming to you... :)
[13:55] <toad_> so you have an asymmetric conn, and STILL have downlink problems, because your spider is aggressive? well, duh :)
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[13:56] <toad_> sh*t
[13:56] <toad_> my testnet hasn't generated any of the reported SBKE errors... :|
[13:58] <toad_> i suppose i'll just have to try to generate some
[14:12] <Ash-Fox> haha
[14:13] <Ash-Fox> "Freenet is working! Something is broken!"
[14:14] <Ash-Fox> Hmm, google just seems to promoting alot of anoying American stuff on my forums all the time
[14:14] <Ash-Fox> Theres one post that talks about invalid home directory... google ads suggests getting green cards for the USA
[14:19] <toad_> heh
[14:20] <toad_> sadly, freenet isn't working :|
[14:28] <Ash-Fox> You fixed it!
[14:29] <toad_> i don't believe you
[14:31] <toad_> hmmm
[14:42] * toad_ trying to fix the insert-does-not-return-URI bug
[14:42] <toad_> it's a really long standing annoyance
[14:43] <toad_> and the more serious bugs I need to reproduce before I can fix
[14:45] <toad_> anyone got gentoo?
[14:45] <toad_> errr
[14:45] <toad_> Blackdown
[14:45] <toad_> not gentoo
[14:45] <toad_> please give me the output of java -version 2>&1 | head -n 1 | sed "s/java version \"\(.*\)\"/\1/"
[14:48] <toad_> hmmm
[14:48] <toad_> FCP is still broken on unstable
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[15:03] <toad_> bbiab
[15:09] <greycat> ah, my node is OOMing. No wonder I can't load my page.
[15:10] <greycat> survived 12 days, though. not too bad.
[15:15] <toad_> you think we still leak?
[15:16] <greycat> 12 days is pretty good compared to some of the bad periods a year or more ago
[15:16] <greycat> it could very well be a blackdown JRE leak for all I know
[15:17] * toad_ is trying to track down the FCP-doesn't-send-a-GeneratedURI bug...
[15:23] <jay> how is fcp broken?
[15:23] <jay> RemoveLocalKey is either broken or real slow
[15:23] <jay> on ClientPut
[15:23] <toad_> hmmm
[15:24] <toad_> we don't send a Pending? hrrm
[15:24] <jay> have u ran fcpput with "-D" at all ?
[15:24] <toad_> jay: they were...
[15:25] <jay> even if i set the timeout count "-a" to 20 (20 retries before accepting failure) it hasn't worked
[15:26] <jay> with -D
[15:28] <jay> toad_: actually it could be that a Pending just isn't arriving, now that i think about it (after u mentioned it)
[15:29] <jay> that could explain the socket timeouts
[15:41] <toad_> yup
[15:41] <toad_> there's something strange going on with InsertRequests here...
[15:41] <toad_> and i think my node has hung somehow...
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[15:51] <toad_> hmmm
[15:51] <toad_> inserts are strang
[15:51] <toad_> e
[15:54] <toad_> it seems we can go to InsertAwaitingStoreData, never having seen an InsertReply...
[15:57] <toad_> aha
[15:57] <toad_> if we get the InsertReply in IAWSD, we pretty much ignore it...
[15:59] <jay> not good
[15:59] <toad_> this is confusing...
[16:03] <toad_> i'm trying to find out exactly what InsertReply's purpose is
[16:03] <toad_> it seems to be superfluous...
[16:08] <toad_> but it does need to get passed to the client, at least...
[16:09] * toad_ restarts node with IAWSD passing IR to the TransferInsert it came from
[16:13] <toad_> yay, it worked
[16:13] <toad_> bbl
[16:14] <toad_> aaargh
[16:14] <toad_> bbl
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[16:20] <thelema> toad_: ping?
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[17:07] <toad_> thelema: pong
[17:13] <thelema> hi toad
[17:14] <thelema> My changes to things shouldn't interefere with your bug fixes.
[17:14] <toad_> good
[17:14] <thelema> Iakin's refactoring of the internals of SKBE wouls.
[17:14] <thelema> *would
[17:15] <thelema> so you'll have to deal with him on his commits
[17:15] <thelema> I'm mostly doing stuff like getting rid of convertTime/Rate/Probability functions
[17:16] <toad_> well i suppose the extra wrapper per KE isn't much RAM cost
[17:16] <toad_> hmmm
[17:16] <toad_> now it USUALLY returns the CHK
[17:16] <toad_> lets see if we can improve that to ALMOST ALWAYS
[17:21] <toad_> okay, we got the StoreData, before the InsertReply
[17:23] <toad_> hmmm
[17:23] <toad_> so to deal with this in FNP by sending an InsertReply when we get StoreData?
[17:23] <toad_> or to deal with it in the client?
[17:24] <toad_> what does the FCP spec say?
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[17:26] <toad_> any client authors here?
[17:26] <toad_> how vital is Pending?
[17:26] <toad_> in an insert?
[17:52] <vsalento> why the icons type is always idle on open connections page although there are active transfers? is this a known bug or do I miss something?
[17:53] <toad_> ummm
[17:53] <toad_> because the connections view isn't really supported any more
[17:53] <toad_> and because muxing works slightly differently
[17:53] <toad_> perhaps
[17:53] <toad_> might be a bug
[17:55] <vsalento> alright... I just asked since it seemed odd. Whatever the reason is it isn't very important
[17:59] <toad_> I've added it to the list of possible bugs to investigate :)
[18:01] * toad_ does one last test insert before committing...
[18:01] <toad_> an MP3 from Parsec
[18:19] * toad_ looks into the "inserts don't work with skipDS" bug, having fixed the "inserts hardly ever return a CHK" bug
[18:19] <toad_> both of these should please greycat
[18:21] <mikeDOTd> my node's specialization appears to change every couple hours
[18:21] <toad_> show me?
[18:22] <toad_> how strong was its specialization?
[18:22] <toad_> i can't replicate the bugs people tell me about in SBKE, which is very VERY annoying...
[18:23] <mikeDOTd> i'll start logging my incoming requests and datastore once an hour and get back to you (i just happened to notice that 12 hours ago requests were coming for a,b, and now have slid towards 6,7,8)
[18:24] <toad_> curious
[18:24] <toad_> save the high detail ones as well as the low detail ones
[18:24] <toad_> and the numbers
[18:24] <mikeDOTd> 'k
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[18:48] <toad_> hmmm
[18:48] <toad_> the everything-constantly-restarting-and-failing on big inserts with skipDS seems to be an artifact of the node having been recently restarted
[18:48] <toad_> i.e. it was failing because it was RNFing
[18:50] <toad_> so lets see if this splitfile push works...
[18:51] <toad_> hmmm
[18:51] <toad_> or perhaps not
[18:52] <toad_> requeued happens a lot...
[19:02] * Ash-Fox says in a kids voice "Is freenet working yet?"
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[19:06] <TheSeeker> hmmm
[19:06] <TheSeeker> ERROR: Resource name [freenet/support/CPUInformation/jcpuid-windows.dll] was not found
[19:06] <TheSeeker> WARN: Native CPUID library jcpuid not loaded - using pure java
[19:06] <TheSeeker> NOTICE: Resource name [net/i2p/util/jbigi-windows-none.dll] was not found
[19:06] <TheSeeker> INFO: Native BigInteger library jbigi not loaded - using pure java
[19:13] <toad_> TheSeeker: :)
[19:13] <toad_> ask Iakin about it
[19:15] * toad_ found the cause of the other Infamous Insert Bug
[19:15] <toad_> hopefully fixed it...
[19:16] <TheSeeker> ooh
[19:17] <TheSeeker> I browsed the CVS and got a the two files... will they get recognized in the root freenet dir, or would I have to put them in the jar?
[19:17] <toad_> what two files?
[19:17] <toad_> where are they in cvs?
[19:18] <toad_> you have to tell java about them
[19:18] <toad_> some command line option
[19:18] <TheSeeker> freenet/support/CPUInformation/jcpuid-windows.dll and net/i2p/util/jbigi-windows-none.dll
[19:18] <toad_> hmmm
[19:18] * toad_ thinks we really ought to keep binaries separate from source code :|
[19:18] <TheSeeker> I think I'll just insert them into the JAR
[19:18] <toad_> freenet-ext.jar
[19:19] <TheSeeker> those paths are in freenet.jar atm ...
[19:19] <toad_> hrrm
[19:20] <TheSeeker> *restarts* lets see if get that error now...
[19:20] <TheSeeker> maybe CPU consumption will go down too...
[19:20] <toad_> it's not really an error
[19:21] <toad_> or it shouldn't be
[19:21] <TheSeeker> well, I changed loglevel to error to try and minimize my CPU usage while on this Cyrix 250 :P
[19:21] <toad_> hmmm
[19:22] <toad_> well i suppose not having the cpuid dll on x86 probably ought to be an error
[19:22] <TheSeeker> Build: 60162 Load: 2 %
[19:23] <TheSeeker> up to 58% now :P
[19:25] <TheSeeker> JavaW has 72 threads according to ATM (Another Task Manager) environment page says it's using 31 of 42 threads ... :(
[19:25] <TheSeeker> what are the other 30 threads? :/
[19:27] <TheSeeker> hmm, a lot of kernel calls happening at the moment, kernel is using 66% of the CPU...
[19:29] <toad_> yeah, NPTL seems to do that
[19:30] <toad_> I think much of it is actually user level
[19:30] <toad_> just being measured wrong
[19:31] <TheSeeker> well, now java is using 80%, and kernel is under control, perhaps it was just reading the data store?
[19:31] <TheSeeker> INFO: Native CPUID library jcpuid loaded from resource
[19:31] <TheSeeker> INFO: Non-optimized native BigInteger library 'jbigi-windows-none.dll' loaded from resource
[19:31] <TheSeeker> yey
[19:33] <toad_> hmmm
[19:33] <toad_> why isn't it using an optimized version? what's your CPU?
[19:33] <toad_> ahh, cyrix
[19:33] <toad_> :)
[19:33] <lscd> "If possible try to get a friend to give you a reference to their node instead." <-- any chance of that happening?
[19:34] <toad_> GMP does not provide a core for cyrix, because a) they suck and b) they went bust ages ago :)
[19:34] <toad_> lscd: sure
[19:34] <toad_> lscd: which branch are you on?
[19:34] <lscd> toad_: cool, thanks
[19:34] <lscd> unstable; I updated on the advice of this chan
[19:34] <toad_> stable or unstable?
[19:35] <toad_> okay, just wait while my node starts up again (restarted due to bugfixing)
[19:35] <TheSeeker> what's new in 162?
[19:35] <lscd> np, i've been waiting about 9 hours already, that'll be great :)
[19:35] <toad_> Unstable build 60162 is now in CVS. The snapshots will be updated soon.
[19:35] <toad_> Changelog:
[19:35] <toad_> * Fixed the "Fred doesn't return a CHK on inserts" bug.
[19:35] <toad_> * Announcements fix. Still not working on my localtestnet. Further work
[19:35] <toad_> will hopefully find the problems.
[19:35] <toad_> * Upped lastGoodBuild to 60153. Anyone running anything older, upgrade
[19:35] <toad_> now!
[19:35] <toad_> * Logging etc.
[19:36] <TheSeeker> Pooled threads running jobs: 93 (124%) [QueryRejecting all incoming requests!] :( :(
[19:36] <TheSeeker> I think I'll update teh JVM on this machine... maybe 1.5 will work better :P
[19:37] <lscd> hm - I'm using blackdown's jvm - would freenet work much better/faster if I switched to Sun's?
[19:37] <toad_> I doubt it would make much difference
[19:38] <toad_> there's not that much difference between the two iirc
[19:38] <lscd> hm, ok; I don't know much about java tbh
[19:38] <toad_> lscd: accept DCC?
[19:38] <TheSeeker> weren't you just asking someone on blackdown to run a command line?
[19:39] <lscd> toad_: I don't see a request for one?
[19:39] <toad_> physical.void=(void)
[19:39] <toad_> physical.tcp=82.32.16.91:50101
[19:39] <toad_> that's rather worrying
[19:40] <|UK-Monster|> when useing stable i see that when i log on and click on (not the same thing but some of them in nodes place)
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[19:40] <lscd> ok, got it now
[19:41] <toad_> lscd: i have lots more if you want
[19:41] <toad_> they'd probablly be more reliable
[19:41] <lscd> toad_: hm, that would be cool, yeah
[19:42] <lscd> how quickly does the network change?
[19:47] <toad_> CHK@B6LTlDlJ1jpd395wM-J0l1EBo7oMAwI,iHHj1JLhRfL4Vz65gfsMJQ/moyo.mp3
[19:47] <toad_> anyone get that?
[19:47] <toad_> on unstable?
[19:47] <toad_> somebody please fetch it anyway
[19:48] <toad_> TheSeeker: running unstable?
[19:48] <lscd> toad_: ok, so do I overwrite my old ref file with the one you sent me, or append it, or what? [sorry for all the newbie questions]
[19:48] <toad_> lscd: something like that :)
[19:48] <toad_> append would work
[19:48] <toad_> as would overwriting it
[19:49] <lscd> toad_: ok, guess I'll append :)
[19:49] <TheSeeker> I don't know if I would call it "running" :P
[19:50] <toad_> TheSeeker: can you try to fetch the above link?
[19:50] <toad_> also what is the problem?
[19:50] <TheSeeker> computer is too slow
[19:51] <toad_> ah
[19:51] <toad_> :<
[19:51] <toad_> tried doCPULoad=true ?
[19:51] <TheSeeker> takes a good 15 seconds to open the gateway page with images dissabled.
[19:51] <TheSeeker> yep
[19:51] <lscd> toad_: so, will waiting 5-10 minutes do, or should I restart freenet, or ..?
[19:51] <toad_> lscd: you need to restart freenet
[19:51] <toad_> TheSeeker: is it memory or is it cpu that's the problem?
[19:51] <toad_> we've had reports of adequate performance on that class of cpu...
[19:52] <TheSeeker> CPU I'm sure, I've got 192 on this machine...
[19:52] <toad_> hrrm
[19:53] * toad_ inserts another test fie
[19:53] <toad_> file
[19:53] <TheSeeker> I got teh header for that chk, but I'm new on the netork and don't have very high hopes of success
[19:53] <TheSeeker> first try:
[19:53] <TheSeeker> Request failed gracefully: Next failed: Could only fetch 5 of 23 blocks in segment 1 of 1: 12 failed, total available 34
[19:53] <toad_> any new unstable index sites yet?
[19:54] <toad_> physical.tcp=82.32.16.91:50101
[19:54] <toad_> ARK.encryption=226d00936ce82ab6a33b6f6de42c4c44c7e24bdc0a5daf0f268240f43987b983
[19:54] <toad_> ARK.revision=3
[19:54] <toad_> ...
[19:54] <lscd> Warning: Unknown mime type audio/mpeg
[19:54] <toad_> excellent, fixed that bug too
[19:54] <TheSeeker> hmm?
[19:54] <lscd>
[19:54] <lscd>
[19:54] <lscd>
[19:54] <lscd> You have retrieved some content which is not recognised by FProxy, and so we don't know what your web browser might do with it. It could be harmless, but it could make your web browser do something which would compromise your anonymity.
[19:55] <toad_> lscd: it's an MP3 file
[19:55] <TheSeeker> force saev to disk
[19:55] <toad_> click "force save to disk"
[19:55] <lscd> toad_: yeah; should I download it? [it's the one you mentioned]
[19:55] <toad_> please do
[19:55] <toad_> that's the whole point ;)
[19:55] <TheSeeker> try 2: Request failed gracefully: Next failed: Could only fetch 11 of 23 blocks in segment 1 of 1: 12 failed, total available 34
[19:56] <toad_> TheSeeker: wait
[19:56] <toad_> all you have to do:
[19:56] <toad_> set the retries box to 50
[19:56] <toad_> (you haven't already done this?)
[19:57] <TheSeeker> I set the retries box to 10, thought thet'd be enough given that the HTL gets incremented 5 each time and the max HTL is 25 (20 now?) so I'm already way overkill :P
[19:57] <toad_> try 50
[19:58] <toad_> this is with htl of only 5 on insertion
[19:58] <toad_> if i was uploading a freesite i'd use at least 10
[19:58] <TheSeeker> I might get it this time...
[19:58] <toad_> but given the current size of the network, 5 shouldn't be too bad, with a few retries
[19:58] <toad_> TheSeeker: progress %?
[19:58] <TheSeeker> 78%
[19:59] <lscd> it got to 13% before failing for me, this time
[19:59] <TheSeeker> only 4 blocks not "transferring"
[19:59] <toad_> 14MB .ogg uploading...
[19:59] <TheSeeker> I turned on images so I could see what's going on :P
[20:00] <toad_> 115MB
[20:00] <toad_> err
[20:00] <toad_> 15MB
[20:00] <toad_> bloody USB hangs
[20:00] <toad_> or whatever they are
[20:00] <TheSeeker> toad: would it make a difference if I used fuqid isntead of fproxy?
[20:00] <toad_> TheSeeker: not much
[20:00] <toad_> if you set retries high
[20:01] <toad_> that one is music; this one is political
[20:02] <lscd> what does it say?
[20:02] <TheSeeker> CPU usage is under control now, maybe 1.5.0 beta is better than 1.4.2 beta :P
[20:03] <TheSeeker> I'm recieving 13 blocks at a combined rate of 1.8 KB/s (assuming no other freenet traffic)
[20:04] <lscd> Speed: 55,495 Bytes/S (it's at 43% atm, and my 4th try)
[20:05] <TheSeeker> how many retries did you use?
[20:06] <TheSeeker> 60164 is out? bah :P
[20:06] <lscd> 5 the first time, 50 the other 3
[20:06] <toad_> INSERTING_BLOCKS (2/85):[1/1] queued: 64 running: 19
[20:06] <toad_> hmmm
[20:06] <toad_> this may take some time...
[20:08] <toad_> TheSeeker: got it yet?
[20:08] <toad_> no, 60164 is about to be committed
[20:08] <TheSeeker> still 78%
[20:08] <TheSeeker> I see someone running a 164 node :P
[20:08] * toad_ commits 60164
[20:08] <toad_> yes, that's me
[20:09] <toad_> committed
[20:10] <TheSeeker> haha, I have your IP now! wait, you already published it in channel :P
[20:11] <toad_> You Are My Thrall...
[20:11] <toad_> Coz I Know Your RLID!
[20:11] <TheSeeker> 14 sources at 6.4KB/s now... might get another chunk soon :D
[20:11] <lscd> RLID=real life identity?
[20:11] <TheSeeker> yes, up to 82%!
[20:11] <toad_> lscd: yup
[20:12] <lscd> toad_: uh-oh, read 'true names' recently? <g>
[20:12] <toad_> snapshots updated for 60164
[20:12] <toad_> lscd: :)
[20:12] <TheSeeker> I'll update as soon as I finish this download :P
[20:12] * toad_ changes topic to 'Upgrade to 5084 | Unstable: Upgrade to 60164 (60160: network level IP detection should work now); network reset at 60151 so 60151 is mandatory | Unstable nodes must be updated daily | Stable nodes should generally be updated weekly | #freenet-chat and #freenet-politics are open for business! Off topic discussions may be directed there. | Logs: http://newton.matcmp.ncc.edu/~lockej/freenet/chanlog/'
[20:12] <TheSeeker> minimum version upped to 60160 right? ;)
[20:12] <toad_> no
[20:12] <TheSeeker> aww
[20:13] <toad_> INSERTING_BLOCKS (8/85):[1/1] queued: 58 running: 19
[20:13] <toad_> hmm
[20:13] <toad_> coming up to 10%...
[20:13] <toad_> INSERTING_BLOCKS (9/85):[1/1] queued: 57 running: 19
[20:13] <toad_> passed 10%
[20:13] <TheSeeker> ...
[20:13] <TheSeeker> Fred,0.6,1.51,60158 |=======
[20:13] <TheSeeker> Fred,0.6,1.51,60159 |=
[20:13] <TheSeeker> Fred,0.6,1.51,60161 |================================================
[20:13] <TheSeeker> Fred,0.6,1.51,60162 |==============
[20:13] <toad_> why would I up the lGB to 60160 btw?
[20:14] <TheSeeker> most people are already running > 60160, you should go ahead and do it ;)
[20:14] <TheSeeker> IP detection was implemented then too.
[20:15] <toad_> okay, I think that's it for today
[20:15] <toad_> not a bad day's work
[20:15] <TheSeeker> if you try to connect with an older node, do you get a warning screen?
[20:15] <toad_> TheSeeker: I don't think that nodes pre 60160 are a big problem
[20:16] <toad_> i'd be more concerned about routing issues etc
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[20:18] <lscd> Current probability of a request succeeding 0.5%
[20:18] <lscd> Current target (best case single node) probability of a request succeeding 10%
[20:18] <lscd> what kind of numbers do you guys have there?
[20:18] <toad_> 10% is pretty good
[20:18] <toad_> bbl zzz
[20:18] <lscd> sleep well, toad_, and thanks
[20:18] <TheSeeker> 'nite
[20:18] <toad_> everyone upgrade to 60164 and insert loads of new content on unstable :)
[20:19] <toad_> TheSeeker: did you get the file?
[20:19] <TheSeeker> still at 82% :P you get that political MP3 inserted yet?
[20:19] <lscd> i'm at 91%
[20:19] <toad_> ogg
[20:19] <toad_> and no, not yet
[20:19] <toad_> and sadly I won't be here when it finishes inserting
[20:20] <TheSeeker> can't pre-calc a CHK I guess?
[20:21] <toad_> i suppose i could insert at htl 0 for the chk...
[20:21] <toad_> INSERTING_BLOCKS (16/85):[1/1] queued: 50 running: 19
[20:21] <TheSeeker> oie
[20:22] * toad_ ups threads to 40, gets chk by inserting at 0, then inserts at 10 w/ 40 threads
[20:22] * lostlogic updates to latest CVS
[20:25] <lscd> toad_: download of the mp3 is done
[20:25] <TheSeeker> hmm, I appeared to have two copies of javaw running... >.o
[20:30] <toad_> CHK@Wj8dfyDxeNknWvkdQK6vykwRSfwNAwI,124s88wkLhoQu9oVsRWmhg
[20:31] <toad_> only been inserted at htl 0 so far though
[20:31] * toad_ now inserts it at htl 10
[20:31] <toad_> with skipDS
[20:31] <toad_> try it in an hour or so
[20:31] <TheSeeker> alright, g'nite
[20:31] <toad_> g'night
[20:33] <toad_> ah sh*t
[20:33] <toad_> looks like skipDS isn't propagated across splitfile uploads in client.cli.Main
[20:33] <toad_> strange
[20:34] <toad_> bbl
[20:35] * toad_ inserts a 195MB political FLAC overnight to make up for it
[20:35] <toad_> off course it's probably of no use to anyone else as it's incomplete and the full version is available somewhere or other
[20:36] <toad_> good night ppl
[20:36] <toad_> zzzz
[20:41] <TheSeeker> yey, got that mp3 finally
[20:46] <toad_> well you could try the above CHK@Wj8dfyDxeNknWvkdQK6vykwRSfwNAwI,124s88wkLhoQu9oVsRWmhg/euthingy.ogg
[20:46] <toad_> but that's not likely to be findable
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